Racer X Fabrication oil pan design and development! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Jeff@Racer X Fab · 01-12-2014, 11:47 AM

We know where we are headed this winter so we are getting some of the needed components completed up front. Here is our oil pan design, and 1 of our prototypes. The design features currently incorporate:

O-ring groove (no more messy sealant!!)
1 qt extra capacity at OEM height
Oil return bung for turbo setups (or can be plugged)
3 degree drain angle at bottom of pan.

So far we are pretty happy with the prototype and will be fitting the pan to check for OEM clearances. Here are a few screen shots of the pan, all of our parts are designed and built at Racer X Fabrication.

As always if you have any questions, comments or suggestions we are glad to hear them.

Dephective · 01-12-2014, 12:41 PM

It would be nice to know which aftermarket header designs this WON'T work with. All headers are designed around OEM clearances, but this looks like it squares out more where the OEM tapers.

Jeff@Racer X Fab · 01-12-2014, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dephective

It would be nice to know which aftermarket header designs this WON'T work with. All headers are designed around OEM clearances, but this looks like it squares out more where the OEM tapers.

We will design around the OEM exhaust manifold, if we find interference issues when we fit the pan, the design will be modified for any clearances needed.

Calum · 01-12-2014, 02:55 PM

This will be the third pan I've seen come out for this engine, which is awesome. I love the amount of choice I get with this car.

One thing I haven't seen with the aftermarket oil pans is a turbo drain that extends to the bottom of the pan. A tube like this with a 45 deg slash cut at the bottom greatly reduces aeration in hydraulic systems, and might be a good idea to include in a system like this.

I'll admit, I'm not a potential customer for this product, so I'm not one to judge how much if any extra your target audience would pay for this extra feature, I just thought I'd pass along the idea.

kiichiro · 01-12-2014, 05:21 PM

Ok. This brings me out of hiding. It's nice work. I too wanna know if it works with my p&l...extra quart is nice!

RehabJeff86 · 01-12-2014, 06:46 PM

Can u educate me wuts the benefit of this product please? TIA!

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JerryMichaels7 · 01-12-2014, 07:06 PM

TURBO!!! I was looking at your mr2 stuff and all of that stuff is beautiful! I can't wait to see what yall do

Jeff@Racer X Fab · 01-13-2014, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

Can u educate me wuts the benefit of this product please? TIA!

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Two reasons, for those that are interested in the simplicity of a bolt on pan for turbo applications instead of modifying the OEM pan. The larger volume of oil will help to keep oil temperatures down.

bakerr6 · 01-13-2014, 05:10 PM

I've been happy with your suspension parts. PM me when you get this finished as an idea of what you are thinking froma cost perspective. Also, what coating options are you planning on going?

normancw · 01-13-2014, 05:25 PM

@racerx1715
Any plans for a baffle to reduce oil starvation on high speed turns?

Captain Snooze · 01-13-2014, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by normancw

@racerx1715
Any plans for a baffle to reduce oil starvation on high speed turns?

Is this an issue with this car? I have not read too many threads of people with oil pressure gauges fitted. I don't have a gauge fitted and run slicks (Kumho V710) at track days so I would be interested to know.

normancw · 01-13-2014, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Is this an issue with this car? I have not read too many threads of people with oil pressure gauges fitted. I don't have a gauge fitted and run slicks (Kumho V710) at track days so I would be interested to know.

I don't know, but it's a feature of the FBM oil plan.

Dipstik-sportech · 01-13-2014, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum

This will be the third pan I've seen come out for this engine, which is awesome. I love the amount of choice I get with this car.

One thing I haven't seen with the aftermarket oil pans is a turbo drain that extends to the bottom of the pan. A tube like this with a 45 deg slash cut at the bottom greatly reduces aeration in hydraulic systems, and might be a good idea to include in a system like this.

I'll admit, I'm not a potential customer for this product, so I'm not one to judge how much if any extra your target audience would pay for this extra feature, I just thought I'd pass along the idea.

I was always under the assumption that being that it's mostly gravity that returns the oil it the pan from the turbo you want as straight a shot as possible. If you extended the drain below the oil level will it not cause the oil to back up and cause the turbo seals to leak ?

Sent from, The Frozen North

Dipstik-sportech · 01-13-2014, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Is this an issue with this car? I have not read too many threads of people with oil pressure gauges fitted. I don't have a gauge fitted and run slicks (Kumho V710) at track days so I would be interested to know.

Ask ken stout racing about the dry sump setup they had to fit due to starvation issues

Sent from, The Frozen North

01-12-2014, 11:47 AM	#1
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01-12-2014, 12:41 PM	#2
Dephective Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: '13 Whiteout FRS Location: Bay Area, Florida Posts: 233 Thanks: 110 Thanked 79 Times in 58 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It would be nice to know which aftermarket header designs this WON'T work with. All headers are designed around OEM clearances, but this looks like it squares out more where the OEM tapers. __________________ Previous: '01 Accord-daily '93 Rx7-fire breathing track monster 545hp 397tq 2300lb. '06 Mazdaspeed6 one helluva love-hate relationship

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01-12-2014, 02:55 PM	#4
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01-13-2014, 05:10 PM	#9
bakerr6 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 raven black fr-s Location: cincinnati, oh Posts: 1,447 Thanks: 503 Thanked 443 Times in 305 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've been happy with your suspension parts. PM me when you get this finished as an idea of what you are thinking froma cost perspective. Also, what coating options are you planning on going?

01-13-2014, 05:25 PM	#10
normancw Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 128i Location: Canada Posts: 290 Thanks: 1,563 Thanked 627 Times in 283 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Baffle to reduce oil starvation? @racerx1715 Any plans for a baffle to reduce oil starvation on high speed turns?

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