Coilover Spring Rates - Help Needed!

[FR-Sky]

Originally Posted by cjd

What kind of bounce? It could be too much compression or too little rebound... Or something else.

i believe is compression? I usually use only 5 clicks from soft for DD, and it doesnt bounce that much.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by cjd

I'm not sure high spring rates are the right answer...

They are when the goals are 'low and no rubbing'

Performance really doesn't seem to be in the equation.

[cjd]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

They are when the goals are 'low and no rubbing'

Performance really doesn't seem to be in the equation.

20k square? Low and no rubbing would be proper fit or no driving. Or no travel... Which 8/10 won't deliver.

Tracking is in the equation I think, unless I misunderstood.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by cjd

20k square? Low and no rubbing would be proper fit or no driving. Or no travel... Which 8/10 won't deliver.

Tracking is in the equation I think, unless I misunderstood.

It is, but I think you are misunderstanding.

I'm widebodied, my rsr springs were not stiff enough ,i kept rubbing the inside of the rears, a buddy of mines were running these specs and they hold up fine, test drove his car and went over some small dips and no rubbing issues at all. So thats the main reason why I chose these specs.

My goal is just to have a car that's stiff enough to not rub my fenders,
I am more concern about the rubbing issue on the fenders, and not so much for comfort.

So basically my goals: 80% on rubbing issue 20% on comfort driving.

Yea, you are right, wheel fitment + tire size is the optimal way to fix it, but costs way too much for me to atm to change my whole set-up, especially for widebody.

Almost everyone here in vegas are running BC'S And Megans.

The way I'm interpreting the priorities
Look > no rubbing >>> comfort >>> performance

Edit: To the OP, I say just try it, it's not rocket science to go back. The alternative is to find someone who already has what you want and copy them, or spend enough time researching to have actually earned a degree in rocket science.

[gramicci101]

Op, question. If you want it to look great while sitting and not rub while driving, what about air or air cup suspension? Also, have you talked with @86SPEED? They're a vendor that is here in Las Vegas.

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by Hentai

Yea, you are right, wheel fitment + tire size is the optimal way to fix it, but costs way too much for me to atm to change my whole set-up, especially for widebody.

Either way I was going to get coils regardless so I thought it would help a little. Just wanted a good opinion on how these spring rates would help up. Thanks for your input though, now I know people do go above 8k lmao. Almost everyone here in vegas are running BC'S And Megans.

Please don't waste your money on those low end coils

Originally Posted by cjd

BC and Megan... Don't waste your money. Especially because it won't help if you're actually pushing the car. You need to fix the fit.



I don't have 18 clicks...

Haha 18/24 so nearly full stiff

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

My car start bounce up and down in a small motion when damper are mid like 13 clicks,(max 24) Does that means too stiff for normal mountain spirit drive? I have 8k spring rate front/rear

Are you bottoming them out?? The stiffer you set them the longer it takes for them to return to the normal position after hitting a bump. Having the dampers too stiff then hitting multiple bumps in a row can cause that. I have hit rough patches of road at high speed with them dampers set too stiff and it feels like your skipping over the surface haha (talking rebound here)

Edit: just saw your post about you adjusting compression. setting that too high prevents the shock from moving up quickly and limits what the spring can do. If rebound is set lower and compression high you will basicly have pogo sticks on all 4 corners.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by Hentai

I track atleast once a month with a friend but im not a hardcore track enthusiast. I live in vegas, roads arent that bad, here. My goal is just to have a car that's stiff enough to not rub my fenders, but also not so stiff for DD
just wondering if my rates are in the "A-Okay" zone? But I am more concern about the rubbing issue on the fenders, and not so much for comfort.

So basically my goals: 80% on rubbing issue 20% on comfort driving.

Do you care about rubbing on track? I think you're going to need wheels/tires that don't rub at full compression or much higher spring rates.

Originally Posted by Hentai

Either way I was going to get coils regardless so I thought it would help a little. Just wanted a good opinion on how these spring rates would help up. Thanks for your input though, now I know people do go above 8k lmao. Almost everyone here in vegas are running BC'S And Megans.

If ride comfort is even part of your goal, I wouldn't go with BC or Megan.

[Hentai]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

Please don't waste your money on those low end coils




Haha 18/24 so nearly full stiff

Are you bottoming them out?? The stiffer you set them the longer it takes for them to return to the normal position after hitting a bump. Having the dampers too stiff then hitting multiple bumps in a row can cause that. I have hit rough patches of road at high speed with them dampers set too stiff and it feels like your skipping over the surface haha (talking rebound here)

Edit: just saw your post about you adjusting compression. setting that too high prevents the shock from moving up quickly and limits what the spring can do. If rebound is set lower and compression high you will basicly have pogo sticks on all 4 corners.

Originally Posted by wparsons

Do you care about rubbing on track? I think you're going to need wheels/tires that don't rub at full compression or much higher spring rates.



If ride comfort is even part of your goal, I wouldn't go with BC or Megan.

I'm not getting a low end under 1k coil. I'm just saying that's what most people run here, nothing wrong with it, but I wouldn't be that person.

Anyways, thanks for the input everyone, I'm in contact with 86speed as of now.