Fifth Gear Review - Toyota GT86/BRZ - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

DeepHunta · 09-30-2012, 07:28 PM

UPDATE:

REVIEW VIDEO HERE @ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18715

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJIvge7c5G4"]fifth gear GT86 - YouTube[/ame]

Not sure if this was already posted but I just saw the review by the Fifth Gear team.

For those of you who don't know, Fifth Gear is like Top Gear without the super funny bits.

It has funny bits, just not as hilarious as Top Gear. Anways, it was Jason Plato who test drove the car.

He was overly impressed by everything except the power and torque delivery. It was sad to hear it but at least everything was top notch. The 86 twins really are a good way to get started in being an enthusiast.

In the end, he says "....it really is a good driver's car".

Now time for some wishfull thinking: I'm positive the STI version will blow everyone's expectations away

Bones36 · 09-30-2012, 07:57 PM

http://velocity.discovery.com/videos...yota-gt86.html

rice_classic · 10-01-2012, 03:10 PM

There's no question about the lack of mid-range. That's primarily due to the famous torque dip of course. I consider my car as having two drivable ranges in the tachometer: 1800rpm - 3200rpm (around town) and 5k - fuel cut (for fun). In between those two feels like a dead zone. Since I'm a former Honda guy I actually like this because my B16 CRX (of 10 years past) and my AP1 had a dead-zone from 0rpm to 5500rpm which, to me, was much worse for every day driving.

Plato is spot on.

Turbowned · 10-01-2012, 03:17 PM

I'm with rice_classic on this one. The 20v blacktop engine in my MR2 is notorious for having part-throttle midrange RPM bogging that no one can seem to figure out. I've just learned to drive around it.

RallySport Direct · 10-02-2012, 01:13 AM

Well compared to my daily driver Civic HX, the BRZ feels quite quick all over LOL. But yes, the dead spot mid RPM is not ideal, but I love how the engine feels like it just wants you to beat on it, almost like it is egging you on. More More MORE!!

Thanks,
Rick

ashtray · 10-02-2012, 03:39 AM

Well, compared to my modified WRX... Oh. Yeah, the BRZ is a bit slow. Had to kick it down to third to pass some traffic on the highway. I went 6th to 4th... but that wasn't doing it so I slammed it in 3rd and made my way back up to 75mph. In my WRX, breathing on the gas pedal puts me at 100mph without blinking. It's quite a difference.

nab335 · 10-02-2012, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashtray

Well, compared to my modified WRX... Oh. Yeah, the BRZ is a bit slow. Had to kick it down to third to pass some traffic on the highway. I went 6th to 4th... but that wasn't doing it so I slammed it in 3rd and made my way back up to 75mph. In my WRX, breathing on the gas pedal puts me at 100mph without blinking. It's quite a difference.

word..im coming from a 335 with full boltons and this car feels completely different to drive..you actually have to basically floor it to pass someone who is going at regular speed

SUB-FT86 · 10-02-2012, 07:48 AM

You guys above me basically posted all the points I hate about owning a 4 cylinder engine at 2L and under.

N/A 4 cylinder = weak and typically underTORQUED
F/I 4 cylinder/V6/I6 = terrific power and torque!
N/A V8 = typically overpowered

I love the medium option every time.

09-30-2012, 07:28 PM	#1
DeepHunta Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: '05 Outback Wgn, '05 Lotus Elise Location: WA Posts: 543 Thanks: 21 Thanked 99 Times in 67 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Fifth Gear Review - Toyota GT86/BRZ UPDATE: REVIEW VIDEO HERE @ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18715 [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJIvge7c5G4"]fifth gear GT86 - YouTube[/ame] Not sure if this was already posted but I just saw the review by the Fifth Gear team. For those of you who don't know, Fifth Gear is like Top Gear without the super funny bits. It has funny bits, just not as hilarious as Top Gear. Anways, it was Jason Plato who test drove the car. He was overly impressed by everything except the power and torque delivery. It was sad to hear it but at least everything was top notch. The 86 twins really are a good way to get started in being an enthusiast. In the end, he says "....it really is a good driver's car". Now time for some wishfull thinking: I'm positive the STI version will blow everyone's expectations away __________________ Proud ex-owner of GBS 6MT BRZ Limited. Pre-ordered on Feb-29-2012, got VIN on 5/19 with ETA 6/6, arrived early on 6/2, but still didn't pick it up until Jun-6-2012. Recently sold the Buuurz as of 4/21/2014

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09-30-2012, 07:57 PM	#2
Bones36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 Brz Jrsc Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 255 Thanks: 78 Thanked 76 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	http://velocity.discovery.com/videos...yota-gt86.html

10-01-2012, 03:10 PM	#3
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,160 Thanks: 755 Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	There's no question about the lack of mid-range. That's primarily due to the famous torque dip of course. I consider my car as having two drivable ranges in the tachometer: 1800rpm - 3200rpm (around town) and 5k - fuel cut (for fun). In between those two feels like a dead zone. Since I'm a former Honda guy I actually like this because my B16 CRX (of 10 years past) and my AP1 had a dead-zone from 0rpm to 5500rpm which, to me, was much worse for every day driving. Plato is spot on.

10-02-2012, 01:13 AM	#5
RallySport Direct Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2014 Widebody Cosworth FR-S Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 4,542 Thanks: 205 Thanked 1,198 Times in 554 Posts Mentioned: 38 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well compared to my daily driver Civic HX, the BRZ feels quite quick all over LOL. But yes, the dead spot mid RPM is not ideal, but I love how the engine feels like it just wants you to beat on it, almost like it is egging you on. More More MORE!! Thanks, Rick

10-02-2012, 03:39 AM	#6
ashtray As Seen On The Internet Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2003 WRX, 2013 BRZ, 442 Location: SoCal Posts: 852 Thanks: 23 Thanked 251 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Well, compared to my modified WRX... Oh. Yeah, the BRZ is a bit slow. Had to kick it down to third to pass some traffic on the highway. I went 6th to 4th... but that wasn't doing it so I slammed it in 3rd and made my way back up to 75mph. In my WRX, breathing on the gas pedal puts me at 100mph without blinking. It's quite a difference.

10-02-2012, 07:48 AM	#8
SUB-FT86 86 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 2.0T (Asphalt) Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 3,129 Thanks: 126 Thanked 527 Times in 296 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	You guys above me basically posted all the points I hate about owning a 4 cylinder engine at 2L and under. N/A 4 cylinder = weak and typically underTORQUED F/I 4 cylinder/V6/I6 = terrific power and torque! N/A V8 = typically overpowered I love the medium option every time.

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