Dealership and pricing question

[2013GTRNate]

Originally Posted by Kids Heart

Is he planing to sell anytime soon? Say he wants to sell in 5-6 years what would the value difference be with the same miles?

Very true! Believe me when I say I love the BRZ in both 2013 and 2014 year models but the truth is that the newer year model will retain more value. The release of the 14' is so close and he expressed a desire to wait for the 2014 which will be in dealerships in a couple Months.

To answer you question I cannot predict the market with 100% accuracy but I believe that the newer year model will retain more value given the same condition and miles. Check out NADA or KBB if you need examples using other cars. Whether or not he plans to sell isn't my point, the point is that it is a CON of buying at the end of the year for a car. Again I love this car in either 13' or 14' but for me and my situation the 2014 was worth the wait. My #1 reason for waiting for the 2014 was the value factor. Assuming that you and I both purchased a BRZ on the same day yours is the 13' and mine the 14' and we checked there value with 100 miles on the odometer mine would be worth more money. That was my only point, it was something to think about.

:happy0180:

-Nate

[batboygotoj]

No I was just calculating taxes + d&h + shipping lol. But with Title & License prob 29.2k - 29.3k.

Yea I see your point, newer models always have better value just like with phones nowadays lol.

But since I'm getting a GBS which is being discontinue maybe it'll hold its value! haha or at least I hope it does.

[2013GTRNate]

Originally Posted by batboygotoj

No I was just calculating taxes + d&h + shipping lol. But with Title & License prob 29.2k - 29.3k.

Yea I see your point, newer models always have better value just like with phones nowadays lol.

But since I'm getting a GBS which is being discontinue maybe it'll hold its value! haha or at least I hope it does.

I am happy that you are getting what you want.

You should definitely get the GBS or you will never forgive yourself.

Best wishes! :happy0180:

-Nate

[boxer 2.5]

Take the 2013 and enjoy it =)

[womensecks]

$27.7 isnt bad, but you're so close to 2014 models that if you are not in a rush, I would wait.

I'm getting my 2014 for less than you would snag that 2013! And yes, essentially a 2014 will have better resale in the end.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by batboygotoj

I just recently made a deposit @ shortline subaru in colorado.

Galaxy Blue 2013
28,879 msrp
27,279 internet price
25,679 MY PRICE - so OTD for my would be about 29K.

Do you think this is a good deal? I'm kinda set on the GBS since they are going to discontinue it. But I just want other's feedback before I seal the deal. haha

Let me guess, you are trading something in.

[Prog]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Let me guess, you are trading something in.

If he was trading something in, I think his OTD price would be lower, unless trade-ins aren't deducted from total cost of the new car for taxes in his state.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Prog

If he was trading something in, I think his OTD price would be lower, unless trade-ins aren't deducted from total cost of the new car for taxes in his state.

That $3200 off MSRP has to be coming from somewhere. The dealership is not going to take a loss on a sale, and there isn't that kind of margin in these cars I thought. That is 11% off MSRP. Edmunds only shows a $1600 difference in price between MSRP and invoice. Am I missing something? My guess is they are making it up in the OTD part if there is no trade in which it sounds like there isn't now.

[Prog]

Originally Posted by King Tut

That $3200 off MSRP has to be coming from somewhere. The dealership is not going to take a loss on a sale, and there isn't that kind of margin in these cars I thought. That is 11% off MSRP. Edmunds only shows a $1600 difference in price between MSRP and invoice. Am I missing something? My guess is they are making it up in the OTD part if there is no trade in which it sounds like there isn't now.

Depending on the size of the dealer, couldn't they be getting a pretty good kickback from Subaru? Just a thought, but his price is indeed very good.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Prog

Depending on the size of the dealer, couldn't they be getting a pretty good kickback from Subaru? Just a thought, but his price is indeed very good.

I checked their website and they claim to be largest Subaru dealer in Denver and they have 15 BRZs in their inventory so my guess is that they move quite a few cars, but probably not too many BRZs now that it is fall time.

[Beyer Subaru]

Originally Posted by batboygotoj

I just recently made a deposit @ shortline subaru in colorado.

Galaxy Blue 2013
28,879 msrp
27,279 internet price
25,679 MY PRICE - so OTD for my would be about 29K.

Do you think this is a good deal? I'm kinda set on the GBS since they are going to discontinue it. But I just want other's feedback before I seal the deal. haha

Ummm, this makes no sense. Your MY PRICE is 500 under dead cost per the specs and MSRP/Invoice cost. I don't see how a dealer is taking a 500 loss on a car? But good on ya if they are!!

[batboygotoj]

Originally Posted by Beyer Subaru

Ummm, this makes no sense. Your MY PRICE is 500 under dead cost per the specs and MSRP/Invoice cost. I don't see how a dealer is taking a 500 loss on a car? But good on ya if they are!!

No trade in. Yea I got the same reaction when I told another dealer the price I'm getting. They were afraid I might get some add on/hidden features to make up for the lost.

But I'll find out once the Finance people call me to talk about numbers.

[Beyer Subaru]

Originally Posted by batboygotoj

No trade in. Yea I got the same reaction when I told another dealer the price I'm getting. They were afraid I might get some add on/hidden features to make up for the lost.

But I'll find out once the Finance people call me to talk about numbers.

I would only go to the store if I had an email or something in writing that stated clearly the Sale Price, Taxes, Tags, Fees, etc.

Just make sure you're covered before you go to the actual dealer in person.

Please keep us abreast of what happens and if the dealer is full of BS or not.

[dehydratedH2O]

note that "invoice" isn't actually how much a dealer pays. generally there's another holdback that is 2-10% of the cost of the car. this is why a lot of dealers will let you order cars at invoice all day long. they're still making money on it and don't have to pay floorplan or anything else on it.

FWIW, the holdback on a BRZ Limited is right around $600, according to the paperwork I've seen.