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Old 08-20-2013, 02:26 AM   #1401
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Ya I wouldn't expect much other than its increased octane rating. But 15 to 20 HP would be worth it if the price was right

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I doubt that you'll see the same gains as 91 to e85 just by adding WMI.
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:04 AM   #1402
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It should be pretty seem less.
Dude, I'm sorry, I try to not be one of those guys who makes a post just to correct someone else's vocabulary, but "seem less"? You're looking for "seamless", as in "of one continuous piece, uninterrupted, an inconspicuous blend".
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Dude, I'm sorry, I try to not be one of those guys who makes a post just to correct someone else's vocabulary, but "seem less"? You're looking for "seamless", as in "of one continuous piece, uninterrupted, an inconspicuous blend".
Don't feel bad, seems like the quality of the posts grammatically have been going down the crapper lately. The Backspace key is not that difficult to use. And FFS, punctuation is not a crime!

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Old 08-20-2013, 09:30 AM   #1404
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:15 AM   #1405
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Dude, I'm sorry, I try to not be one of those guys who makes a post just to correct someone else's vocabulary, but "seem less"? You're looking for "seamless", as in "of one continuous piece, uninterrupted, an inconspicuous blend".
I posted from my phone. I use swipe, sometimes it makes mistakes.... When it is a long post I don't usually go back and proof read, I have other things to do.

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Don't feel bad, seems like the quality of the posts grammatically have been going down the crapper lately. The Backspace key is not that difficult to use. And FFS, punctuation is not a crime!

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Then you should spell out what FFS means it's not a word.

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Why is spelling or grammar important if you understand what was meant. If you corrected the person then you understood by default. Your just being an assh0l3 by taking time to report your observation.

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Progressive kits are a gimmick and a joke

They typically all use the same sureflow pumps and vary the voltage or duty cycle to the pump.

I flow test every system when a customer shows up with one.

Upto about 30 percent setting flow is very low and unpredictable. At 30 percent thing are full swing and will flow 80 percent of what the system flows at 100 percent setting.

So your actual flow range variation is very small.

Also.... if you exceed about 15 percent water YOU WILL ! lose significant power over a decent tune.

So to get it back...you have to lean out your tune and add timing JUST to get it back. So now you are at the mercy of your single nozzle water injection kit In our modern multi port efi world.

Keep the shot small. And mostly water.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:52 PM   #1410
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Also.... if you exceed about 15 percent water YOU WILL ! lose significant power over a decent tune.

So to get it back...you have to lean out your tune and add timing JUST to get it back. So now you are at the mercy of your single nozzle water injection kit In our modern multi port efi world.

Keep the shot small. And mostly water.
Please clarify what you mean by 15% water.
Do you mean 15% water and 85% methanol in the tank?
Or do you mean 15% water in the air-charge?

I did a test on the dyno and ran my car with and without the 400cc/min 50/50 water/meth injecting pre-twinscrew, base 91 tune. The car made identical power with it on or off.

I switched it to the map with more timing and 5% lean-out and it made 15-20 more whp.
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I spent hours looking up water/meth and the benefits, and after recently having an ecutek tune done really believe that a full exhaust system with this SC application will make me personally very happy on track day. No on water/meth for this system. Also it's just not enough reward for the risk at 5psi
Edit: and a good tune of course.
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Your signature block has two incorrectly capitalized letters.
No it doesn't. The words in question are being used as if they are proper names.
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Please clarify what you mean by 15% water.
Do you mean 15% water and 85% methanol in the tank?
Or do you mean 15% water in the air-charge?

I did a test on the dyno and ran my car with and without the 400cc/min 50/50 water/meth injecting pre-twinscrew, base 91 tune. The car made identical power with it on or off.

I switched it to the map with more timing and 5% lean-out and it made 15-20 more whp.
15 percent of fuel flow.
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I spent hours looking up water/meth and the benefits, and after recently having an ecutek tune done really believe that a full exhaust system with this SC application will make me personally very happy on track day. No on water/meth for this system. Also it's just not enough reward for the risk at 5psi
Edit: and a good tune of course.
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