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Old 10-02-2018, 02:18 PM   #43
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Come on. That's a cheap shot. Use 5w30 the next time you change your oil. If you honestly can't feel the difference, then there's no point in discussing it any further because you just aren't that guy.


The majority of people are mechanically tone deaf. There's nothing wrong with that but don't be mean to those who aren't.
So, is this a hearing or feeling thing, or both -

What should we be listening for - feeling for - ??

Is it ma med time yet? I've moved on to the 1,000 mg bottle of ***, the 500 mg strength wasn't getting it -


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OMG - that stuff is "real" -


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It's a satirical website, thankfully!

Just imagine the horrors of wives insisting using essential oils in engines that they bought from their one hippie friend!
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Valvoline syntech 5-30 in the track car most of the time (ALWAYS on sale at Advance Auto - and has a made / owned in USA logo!!!), until my buddy's reminders that he deals Amsoil co-incide with a change, and I toss him a few bucks
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It's a satirical website, thankfully!

Just imagine the horrors of wives insisting using essential oils in engines that they bought from their one hippie friend!

Na ugh - it's real - I read it on the Internet -

It says:

"doTerra is a multi-level marketing company based in Pleasant Grove, Utah that sells essential oils.."

So, I'm going to get in on the ground floor of this pyramid - and get rich -

I ordered a 55 gal barrel for starters, I'm gonna repackage it -

Now, where did I put that bottle of *** oil - it's time for another dose.


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Now, where did I put that bottle of *** oil - it's time for another dose.


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You seem to talk about that *** oil a lot. ALOT.


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Because I'm generally not a believer in brand mattering much when it comes to motor oil I've done a different oil every 2 oil changes, just did my second one with AMSOil Signature Series. First 2 were Subaru OEM, next 2 were Mobil 1. I get a UOA w/ TBN on /every/ oil change.


Guess what? No real differences. I like AMSOil's product line though, so I'm probably going to continue using it, although I may switch to Motul since it's not too expensive and I'm using Motul brake fluid and will likely need to do diff fluid at my next oil change and am probably putting in Motul.


Long story short, don't overthink it. Just make sure you're using either 0W-20 or 5W-30 depending on your local climate/driving style, and buy full-synthetic from a reputable brand.
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You seem to talk about that *** oil a lot. ALOT.

Yep, it's my latest "snake oil type stuff" attempt to preclude hips replacements.

The Chief, down on the reservation, at the Pot Shop, keeps trying to get me to try the other half of his cannabis plants, but I'm resisting.

I have some other stuff coming, from the Internet, that claims to be a natural cure. We shall see.

None of them could be less effective than that grape juice and fruit pectin concoction that mrs humfrz conjured up.




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Not a cheap shot I am trying to understand what you say you feel or hear. Changing the oil to a whole different viscosity is not the same thing as one that has literally dropped a small percentage due to use. This is why I feel that if the oil has dropped so far in viscosity that you can tell the difference it has to be no longer working properly and is causing damage. Not great damage but damage all the same.
There has to be something that physical that is detectable by anybody even those that are "mechanically tone deaf" for this phenomenon to exist. To say some have it and others just don't get it is a cop out. This is the whole "I really feel that lightweight pulley" thing at a fluid level.
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I got my oil changed and tires rotated for 34 bucks otd at my dealer. Doubt they use Mobil 1 lol
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I have been using Idemitsu to top it off since my understanding is that it's the factory fill. Funny thing is the stuff I bought off amazon is manufactured here in the US. Had no idea they produced this stuff here.


Here it is with all that Moly goodness. Might be bumping up to 5w-30 for my first oil change since I kinda run the car hard.

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I got my oil changed and tires rotated for 34 bucks otd at my dealer. Doubt they use Mobil 1 lol
It don't matter what they used as long as the drums were stored on their sides.

Oil has a really long shelf life, heck, it was stored in the ground for millions of years -


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I have been using Idemitsu to top it off since my understanding is that it's the factory fill. Funny thing is the stuff I bought off amazon is manufactured here in the US. Had no idea they produced this stuff here.


Here it is with all that Moly goodness. Might be bumping up to 5w-30 for my first oil change since I kinda run the car hard.

Great photography!


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Not a cheap shot I am trying to understand what you say you feel or hear. Changing the oil to a whole different viscosity is not the same thing as one that has literally dropped a small percentage due to use. This is why I feel that if the oil has dropped so far in viscosity that you can tell the difference it has to be no longer working properly and is causing damage. Not great damage but damage all the same.
There has to be something that physical that is detectable by anybody even those that are "mechanically tone deaf" for this phenomenon to exist. To say some have it and others just don't get it is a cop out. This is the whole "I really feel that lightweight pulley" thing at a fluid level.
There is a physical change that is detectable by anybody with the right equipment in a controlled test. I don't think a simple audio recording inside the cabin would capture it. Even if I did manage to show the change in timbre with a spectrum analysis I bet it would still be subtle enough that a doubter could easily claim "noise" or "margin of error."

I can prove that I can hear/feel the difference as easily as prove that I can tell the difference between new and perfectly ok guitar strings.

Can you prove that I'm imagining it? I probably should have led with that after @humfrz sucked me in ... again.
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There is a physical change that is detectable by anybody with the right equipment in a controlled test. I don't think a simple audio recording inside the cabin would capture it. Even if I did manage to show the change in timbre with a spectrum analysis I bet it would still be subtle enough that a doubter could easily claim "noise" or "margin of error."

I can prove that I can hear/feel the difference as easily as prove that I can tell the difference between new and perfectly ok guitar strings.

Can you prove that I'm imagining it? I probably should have led with that after @humfrz sucked me in ... again.
Hey, I was just eating my popcorn.-

However, if you want to get all scientific, I suggest that you all do an experiment while you are gathered for a tech day.


Line up five FR-S cars with used oil in them. Start them up, let ol @Ultramaroon do his feelie/touchie/hearie/mind meld thingie with each one.

Now, in Ultramaroon's absence, change the oil in one of the cars. Run all five cars for five minutes.

Now ask ol "7th sense Ultra" to pick out the car that had just had its oil changed.

Yes, betting would be allowed.

@Tcoat would be the judge.

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