Performance Pack track essentials

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by Icecreamtruk

How the hell does a line understeer exactly?

It doesn't!

What I meant to say was that the OP will need camber correction to deal with understeer.

[Icecreamtruk]

Originally Posted by dradernh

It doesn't!

What I meant to say was that the OP will need camber correction to deal with understeer.

The phrasing could've been a bit better, I was weirdly confused trying to picture it. Anyways, yes without front camber, its understeer city and tire shoulders gone.

[jtice]

Do the camber bolts have any negative effect for daily driving on the street?
I drive mine quite spiritedly, and plan to do autocross, but not actual tracks for a while i doubt.

[dattran86]

Originally Posted by jtice

Do the camber bolts have any negative effect for daily driving on the street?
I drive mine quite spiritedly, and plan to do autocross, but not actual tracks for a while i doubt.

I dont know why it would, I daily my car with them for 2 years. the car just feel better overall with more camber up front

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by jtice

Do the camber bolts have any negative effect for daily driving on the street?
I drive mine quite spiritedly, and plan to do autocross, but not actual tracks for a while i doubt.

Just run zero toe and wear shouldn't be a problem

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by finch1750

Just run zero toe and wear should be a problem

Typo...should not be a problem.

Tire wear isn't a huge issue for most street drivers until you go over -2 degrees as long as toe is close to 0. Even up to -2.5 is fine for some (though a 100 mile highway commute would not be ideal).

If you track your car, tire wear WILL be an issue UNLESS you have more than -2 degrees of camber. Get that negative camber.

Exact specs and recommendations will depend on tire size/compound, usage, and suspension set-up.

- Andrew

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Typo...should not be a problem.

- Andrew

Whoops. Fixed lol

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

My local track (Palmer Motorsports Park) features several 50min lapping sessions depending on the group putting on the event and my friend who runs his BRZ says it can be rather abusive on consumables. I will be doing events there and a couple at other nearby tracks like Lime Rock Park and Thompson Speedway.

Are you going to run with COMSCC? If so I'll see you at the track

Brake pads: are the OE pads sufficient for track use or should I get a different set and swap them in and out when I get to the track? If so, recommendations on pads for extended weekend use?

I've been running Carbotechs for years now. XP8 on the S2000, XP10 on the FD. Plan to run XP10 on the BRZ as well. Quite streetable pads, a lot of times I leave them in for the whole track season (not that that's making the best use of them...)

Fluid: should I leave the OE fluid in for my first weekend or flush with something like RBF600 right off the bat?

I've never had any issues running off-the-shelf parts store name-brand DOT4, even in the 550hp FD. I doubt anything more is needed for a 205hp BRZ with big Brembo brakes.

Hoses: standard OK or stainless braided a must?

Standard should be fine.

[Luken10]

Is there any sort of agreed upon camber spec for a mix of HPDE and DD duties? I want to keep my car as stock feeling as possible for now, but I have also ruined tires in one track day because I didn't have enough camber on previous cars. How much does zeroing the toe to combat wear change the driving dynamics? Hoping there is a happy medium of settings that won't kill tires on the track or while DDing.

Similar to OP, I am looking to do what is necessary to get my car properly prepped for the track in order to save on costs in the long run.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Luken10

Is there any sort of agreed upon camber spec for a mix of HPDE and DD duties? I want to keep my car as stock feeling as possible for now, but I have also ruined tires in one track day because I didn't have enough camber on previous cars. How much does zeroing the toe to combat wear change the driving dynamics? Hoping there is a happy medium of settings that won't kill tires on the track or while DDing.

Similar to OP, I am looking to do what is necessary to get my car properly prepped for the track in order to save on costs in the long run.

How often will you be tracking?

Check out 86CUP.

www.86cup.us

[Luken10]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

How often will you be tracking?

Check out 86CUP.

www.86cup.us

86 cup is a big reason why I purchased my car! Hoping to be out there for the May event. Ideally I would like to go every other event. I'll have to see how much consumables end up costing me.

[nikitopo]

Just a few answers. Others can reply on the rest

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Engine oil: I probably should've searched on this one, but to be honest, 0W20 scares the crap out of me. It looks like water when it's at room temperature; does it really protect the engine when it gets hot? Does anyone use a higher viscosity like 5W30? I'm coming from German cars which all use 0W40/5W40 so perhaps I'm just paranoid. I plan to change my oil after each lapping weekend; any reason not to?

I live in Germany and my dealer puts a 5W30 oil by default. I've seen cars even running a 5W40 oil. You should not worry about this. The 0W20 suggestion is all about emissions and consumption.

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Oil cooler: I've read elsewhere it's a must. So unless anyone tells me otherwise I'll probably be getting one. Is it possible to move the temp sensor somewhere before the cooler to get a more accurate temperature reading?

Porsche usually place the oil temperature sensor in the oil pan. On the BRZ the sensor is placed in a different location and it reads higher. It is something like 10-12C higher. So, maybe it is better to compare first. What oil temperatures did you have in your 911?

In general air oil coolers are ok, but you 'll have cases where your oil will NOT run in optimal temperature. Not on track, but on daily driving. In such cases you 'll need to go back to a thinner oil.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Luken10

86 cup is a big reason why I purchased my car! Hoping to be out there for the May event. Ideally I would like to go every other event. I'll have to see how much consumables end up costing me.

Once every other month? If you have any experience at all, you should just be running a track alignment with that kind of event frequency.

[bmxr]

I just wanted to chime in and agree with most of what’s been posted. My 2017 PP has been great on track, even with the stock tires and not much else. Brake fluid is a must for any track car, and I did camber bolts. Aftermarket brake lines are not necessary. One thing I did want to say is, don’t bother with “street/track” brake pads. IMO, they do one or the other well, or neither, and with the Brembos, you can swap them all in <30 minutes. Use a track compound! I love my XP10s. Easily overwhelm the Primacys and will still be one less thing to worry about when I switch to something stickier. I will be adding an oil cooler soon, but honestly don’t plan to do much more other than focus on getting more experience in th car.