Automatic Transmission Fluid Change

[whataboutbob]

Just stopped by the local Scion dealer to get a quote on an AT fluid change. $250. and about 5/6 hours in shop.

[benster]

you could do it on your own, it just won't replace all the fluid. What I usually do with my autos is I change the fluid twice and then get a garage flush using their machine. Idk if the fr-s has a drain plug and filter in it but it could be something to save some money and still get about half fresh fluid in. The fluid is recommended for 100k, same as Dextron 6 and whatever mercedes uses in their no dipstick transmission.

[victorb]

Use oem fluid. Just Change more often, every 15,000miles if you drive it hard

[AZP Installs]

We suggest and change out our clients ATF at the 30k major service interval. Over the years we've had very very good luck running Redline High Temp Synthetic fluid in our cars. This includes an Automatic full-fledge Road Race car that saw 20-30k of track miles in a year with several 8 hour enduros.

Also anyone who is running an Automatic should be installing an external ATF cooler. Heat is the number 1 killer of automatic transmissions. We like the B&M ATF Coolers you can find from Summit Racing for <$75. Couple that with an ATF Temp Gauge and you will be doing yourself a very very important service.

For fluids either Redline High Temp ATF or the OEM ATF is what we suggest and definitely do a drain/fill every 30k miles. While that will not get all the fluid out due to the fluid stuck in the torque converter, if you do it with your 30k interval changes you will cycle through most of it in 2 or 3 changes.

-Mike Paisan


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[AZP Installs]

Side note, flush machines have been known to bend the fins in the torque converter due to over pressurization. We never suggest using the flush machines.

-Mike Paisan


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[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

We suggest and change out our clients ATF at the 30k major service interval. Over the years we've had very very good luck running Redline High Temp Synthetic fluid in our cars. This includes an Automatic full-fledge Road Race car that saw 20-30k of track miles in a year with several 8 hour enduros.

Also anyone who is running an Automatic should be installing an external ATF cooler. Heat is the number 1 killer of automatic transmissions. We like the B&M ATF Coolers you can find from Summit Racing for <$75. Couple that with an ATF Temp Gauge and you will be doing yourself a very very important service.

For fluids either Redline High Temp ATF or the OEM ATF is what we suggest and definitely do a drain/fill every 30k miles. While that will not get all the fluid out due to the fluid stuck in the torque converter, if you do it with your 30k interval changes you will cycle through most of it in 2 or 3 changes.

-Mike Paisan


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Mike,

Have you done this to one of the twins yet? If so, where did you mount the cooler?

[OrbitalEllipses]

Same place you would add an oil cooler...in front of the radiator.

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

Mike,

Have you done this to one of the twins yet? If so, where did you mount the cooler?

We have not done it yet but like an oil cooler we would put it in front of the radiator. The B&M Kit includes the mounting setup to mount it against the radiator.

-Mike Paisan


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[dem00n]

I was thinking of doing some research on the 8-speed Lexus IS-F AT since its the pretty much the same gear box minus the 2 gears but then i'd figure the service done on those AT would create quite a difference with the extra 2 gears.

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by dem00n

I was thinking of doing some research on the 8-speed Lexus IS-F AT since its the pretty much the same gear box minus the 2 gears but then i'd figure the service done on those AT would create quite a difference with the extra 2 gears.

Um. You may want to look at the is250 instead. That is the driveline used in the brz.

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[zoomzoomers]

The AT fluid, along with the diff fluid, has been nagging on my mind lately. There was a forum member who changed out both and stated that there was an excessive amount of metal and crap in both of the fluids. Now I know it's probably paranoia taking over, as I don't plan on keeping this car anywhere near 100k miles, but I do not like the idea of me unneccessarily punishing my cars when I can avoid it.

So if the cost isn't prohibitive, I think I'll think about changing them both out at or near the 30k miles mark.

[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

The AT fluid, along with the diff fluid, has been nagging on my mind lately. There was a forum member who changed out both and stated that there was an excessive amount of metal and crap in both of the fluids. Now I know it's probably paranoia taking over, as I don't plan on keeping this car anywhere near 100k miles, but I do not like the idea of me unneccessarily punishing my cars when I can avoid it.

So if the cost isn't prohibitive, I think I'll think about changing them both out at or near the 30k miles mark.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=15 - @zoomzoomers the Toyota (e.r. Scion) dealer quoted me $250 FYI.

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=15 - @zoomzoomers the Toyota (e.r. Scion) dealer quoted me $250 FYI.

Go see mike over at Infamous Tuning & Performance and you will likely get a significantly lower price!

-Mike Paisan


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[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

Go see mike over at Infamous Tuning & Performance and you will likely get a significantly lower price!

-Mike Paisan


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I actually talked to Mike about this and he was hesitant to work on the AT at this point. I definitely recommend going there for other service. I've had them do several things to my car and they do good work, are knowledgeable, and friendly.