Sneak Peek! P&L Motorsports Stg.1 BRZ/FRS Turbo Kit.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

I get the idea that it would pool when the you are done driving and shutting down.

Where do you foresee it pooling?

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by Calum

Where do you foresee it pooling?

Perhaps pooling isn't the ideal choice of wording. More like unnecessary left over coating over time. Perhaps decreasing the life of the turbo seals. There is a reason why documentation on F/I setups have always provided the rule of having the system parallel.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

Perhaps pooling isn't the ideal choice of wording. More like unnecessary left over coating over time. There is a reason why documentation on F/I setups have always provided the rule of having they system parallel.

Now that I can understand... hmm That's food for thought and research.

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by Calum

Now that I can understand... hmm That's food for thought and research.

I'm also forced to think about the effects of sustained cornering G's (some tracks use Nascar Banks), if you were to take this setup to a track. Extra angle increasing upon an already angled turbo? Makes me wonder...

Say they say it's alright, I'm sure they have more experience than I do at building a system of course, I still would have preferred a curve in the pipe than to make the turbo non-parallel. It looks awkward compared to every setup I've ever seen.

I did google "crooked turbo setup" and came across a boxer setup with an angled turbo system, so perhaps it does work ok.

[kiks]

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

I was only referring to the drain, sorry for any confusion. Unless turbos come with internal oil pumps in recent time, there is nothing inside of the CHRA that releases or forces the oil to drain into the oil pan other than gravity and a clear unrestricted path to the pan. If its tilted I don't see how it is free flowing to the pan. I get the idea that it would pool when the you are done driving and shutting down.

This would be the first time I have ever in my life seen a tilted turbo on any application. So I'm curious to hear thoughts from P&L also.

Ok so your argument is flawed.

Garrett are happy to mount at up to 36 degrees off horizontal in any direction in any application.

So lets just think for a second, what about accellerating at .5 of a G continuous in a straight line...turbo is mounted at 22.5 degrees now for the sake of oil drainage.

1G? 45 degrees, plus any additional rake from chassis movement.

Or lets think lateral acceleration, same thing, same figures.

So in reality any and every turbo except tractors, ships and solid state generators are exposed to all sorts of angles and shit and it makes zero difference.

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by kiks

Ok so your argument is flawed.

Garrett are happy to mount at up to 36 degrees off horizontal in any direction in any application.

So lets just think for a second, what about accellerating at .5 of a G continuous in a straight line...turbo is mounted at 22.5 degrees now for the sake of oil drainage.

1G? 45 degrees, plus any additional rake from chassis movement.

Or lets think lateral acceleration, same thing, same figures.

So in reality any and every turbo except tractors, ships and solid state generators are exposed to all sorts of angles and shit and it makes zero difference.

You have a link to said Garrett information? If they say its possible then cool beans. Still think it looks awkward, but works I reckon.

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

You have a link to said Garrett information? If they say its possible then cool beans. Still think it looks awkward, but works I reckon.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...il_water_lines

I think you're looking for this though..

Oil Drain
In general, the larger the oil drain, the better. However, a -10AN is typically sufficient for proper oil drainage, but try not to have an inner diameter smaller than the drain hole in the housing as this will likely cause the oil to back up in the center housing. Speaking of oil backing up in the center housing, a gravity feed needs to be just that! The oil outlet should follow the direction of gravity +/-35° when installed in the vehicle on level ground. If a gravity feed is not possible, a scavenge pump should be used to insure that oil flows freely away from the center housing.
Avoid:

• Undulations in the line or extended lengths parallel to the ground
• Draining into oil pan below oil level
• Dead heading into a component behind the oil pan
• Area behind the oil pan (windage tray window) where oil sling occurs from crankshaft

When installing your turbocharger, insure that the turbocharger axis of rotation is parallel to the level ground within +/- 15°. This means that the oil inlet/outlet should be within 15° of being perpendicular to level ground.

there's more in there, but that's Garrett specific.

[jet86]

is it 1.5" sch10 304SS manifold?

[KGFRS86]

Sorry to resurrect this thread but...I gotta ask. How is the AT holding up at this time?

[KGFRS86]

bump?

[P&L Motorsports]

Funny that you bumped this thread today!

The BRZ spent the whole day on the dyno today testing some new parts that we have in the works. All I heard was 1-5 gear wide open throttle acceleration runs all day. LOL As far as I know the BRZ is still on the original AT.

I believe the Stg.2 turbo set up and Oil/trans coolers were among the things being tested.

Kathy

[Supermassive]

Originally Posted by P&L Motorsports

Funny that you bumped this thread today!

The BRZ spent the whole day on the dyno today testing some new parts that we have in the works. All I heard was 1-5 gear wide open throttle acceleration runs all day. LOL As far as I know the BRZ is still on the original AT.

I believe the Stg.2 turbo set up and Oil/trans coolers were among the things being tested.

Kathy

A stage 2!!! What all is involved with that? I have a few other questions/requests for you guys, but I'll give you a call tomorrow afternoon to address them!