shifting into 2nd - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Whitigir · 05-27-2013, 09:09 AM

The second gear is like that to many cars, even in my old vr4. It is not a bad sign. Take steps

1/ warm up the car idling
2/ throw into second gear, even if it is not going in, keep on it, dont force it, and it will go in.

This has to be the design of the transmission with the safety mechanism, but you are fine. Try change transmission oil, it will work better as this was what i did in my vr4

Ganthrithor · 05-27-2013, 11:41 AM

Yeah, mind doesn't like second while cold either. I also find myself getting hung up on something when downshifting from 5th to 4th quite often. You really can't move the stick "diagonally" at all when doing that or there's some gate or something that it catches on. Very annoying. That happens at all temps.

maverickar15 · 05-30-2013, 09:52 PM

1st-2nd is smooth once it gets to working temperature. Before it gets warm, I take it easy while shifting 1st to 2nd because it feels like I'm grinding it even when I'm not.

Subie · 05-30-2013, 10:19 PM

I don't have as many issues shifting into second as I do shifting out of it. When cold, it tends to "stick" in second making the 2-3 shift a bit more labored.

radroach · 05-30-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Subie

I don't have as many issues shifting into second as I do shifting out of it. When cold, it tends to "stick" in second making the 2-3 shift a bit more labored.

I had this for awhile too. Learned that if I go slower in second, stick in the powerband for a bit longer and basicly "push" the car from 2nd, giving a little more throttle right before shifting, I can usually get a 2nd-3rd gear shift with much smoother syncro action.

synister808 · 06-25-2013, 10:49 PM

Just hit 1,000 miles, and my 2nd to 3rd started to be clunky. It's like something is not lining up.

BRZfan · 06-26-2013, 06:51 AM

Machines are designed to work at work temperatures. Let it warm up properly. The engine is NOT the only thing that needs a warmup. There's the differential and suspension system, for instance. Anyone involved in racing knows what 'cold' tires can / cannot do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subie

I don't have as many issues shifting into second as I do shifting out of it. When cold, it tends to "stick" in second making the 2-3 shift a bit more labored.

BRZfan · 06-26-2013, 06:52 AM

Machines are designed to work at work temperatures. Let it warm up properly. The engine is NOT the only thing that needs a warmup. There's the differential and suspension system, for instance. Anyone involved in racing knows what 'cold' tires can / cannot do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subie

I don't have as many issues shifting into second as I do shifting out of it. When cold, it tends to "stick" in second making the 2-3 shift a bit more labored.

ZeHeadBanger · 01-07-2014, 10:39 AM

Late to this party, but I too have been having this issue from the time I got the car. I currently have 7800 miles on the ODO.

Frankly, I thought this was one of the safety mechanism features installed on the vehicle that saves you from shifting into second gear at high speeds. I see the logic in this as my friend blew his engine up when he shifted accidentally from 5th to 2nd on his e46.

This problem is at its worst during cold weather and right now its buttfuckin' cold, here in Michigan! So it takes a lot of time to heat the engine up.

Also, if it helps others, once you start driving and the issue is still present, try changing gears below 7mph. That kinda works for me, though its not really smooth. As I drive along and the trans oil heats up, it goes back to its 'buttery' state. Frankly, I love the MT in BRZ and this is just something I have agreed to adjust to while driving!

Darkrune · 01-07-2014, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mochikomi

Double clutching helps for large skips and keeps your synchros more healthy. eg. Downshifting from 6-3, 5-2 or some such can either take longer or put a lot of work on the synchros, but if you double clutch it will slide right in.

It's also a good thing to have in the tool belt in case you have a synchro fail. It's not necessary, but it still has its uses.

Turbo95eg6 · 01-07-2014, 10:42 PM

Yeah, same issue here. Can shift into 2nd no problem, downshifting is a different story.

radroach · 01-08-2014, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeHeadBanger

it takes a lot of time to heat the engine up.

Have you considered using an engine block heater or a transmission heater?

Suberman · 01-08-2014, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radroach

Have you considered using an engine block heater or a transmission heater?

Actually, I find the BRZ warms up quite quickly. You can tell by the climate control. The engine itself warms up more rapidly than the temperature gauge would indicate because the temp sender is downstream of the thermostat, as it is on most cars.

The transmission should begin shifting smoothly in cold conditions after just a few miles. Only the first couple of shifts are baulky. I expect the transmission will get much smoother with mileage, most do.

ZeHeadBanger · 01-08-2014, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radroach

Have you considered using an engine block heater or a transmission heater?

Nope, never actually thought of that! Might try that!

05-30-2013, 09:52 PM	#45
maverickar15 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 06 STI Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 19 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	1st-2nd is smooth once it gets to working temperature. Before it gets warm, I take it easy while shifting 1st to 2nd because it feels like I'm grinding it even when I'm not. __________________ 13 SWP BRZ 06 WRB STI

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05-27-2013, 09:09 AM	#43
Whitigir Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 450 awhp twin turbo vr4 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,012 Thanks: 94 Thanked 273 Times in 177 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The second gear is like that to many cars, even in my old vr4. It is not a bad sign. Take steps 1/ warm up the car idling 2/ throw into second gear, even if it is not going in, keep on it, dont force it, and it will go in. This has to be the design of the transmission with the safety mechanism, but you are fine. Try change transmission oil, it will work better as this was what i did in my vr4

05-27-2013, 11:41 AM	#44
Ganthrithor Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: '13 BRZ, '06 997, Other Things(TM) Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 1,078 Thanks: 1,715 Thanked 670 Times in 351 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah, mind doesn't like second while cold either. I also find myself getting hung up on something when downshifting from 5th to 4th quite often. You really can't move the stick "diagonally" at all when doing that or there's some gate or something that it catches on. Very annoying. That happens at all temps.

05-30-2013, 10:19 PM	#46
Subie Señor Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2013 SSM DZE BRZ Location: SC Posts: 947 Thanks: 728 Thanked 405 Times in 196 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't have as many issues shifting into second as I do shifting out of it. When cold, it tends to "stick" in second making the 2-3 shift a bit more labored.

06-25-2013, 10:49 PM	#48
synister808 Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: Kaneohe Hawaii Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just hit 1,000 miles, and my 2nd to 3rd started to be clunky. It's like something is not lining up.

01-07-2014, 10:39 AM	#51
ZeHeadBanger Stuck like Glue Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: WRB BRZ Limited Location: Farmington Hills, MI Posts: 100 Thanks: 49 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Late to this party, but I too have been having this issue from the time I got the car. I currently have 7800 miles on the ODO. Frankly, I thought this was one of the safety mechanism features installed on the vehicle that saves you from shifting into second gear at high speeds. I see the logic in this as my friend blew his engine up when he shifted accidentally from 5th to 2nd on his e46. This problem is at its worst during cold weather and right now its buttfuckin' cold, here in Michigan! So it takes a lot of time to heat the engine up. Also, if it helps others, once you start driving and the issue is still present, try changing gears below 7mph. That kinda works for me, though its not really smooth. As I drive along and the trans oil heats up, it goes back to its 'buttery' state. Frankly, I love the MT in BRZ and this is just something I have agreed to adjust to while driving!

01-07-2014, 10:42 PM	#53
Turbo95eg6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2014 BRZ SWP LTD Location: The 503 Posts: 2,174 Thanks: 331 Thanked 2,266 Times in 858 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Yeah, same issue here. Can shift into 2nd no problem, downshifting is a different story.

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