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09-20-2018, 01:23 PM | #1 |
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2018 BRZ Ts C&D Lightning Lap
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...inglap2018cars Lightning Lap results posted. 5.7 seconds faster than the 2017 BRZ PP. 6.8 seconds faster than the 2016 MX5 Club. Not too shabby. [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt-r93ZlCAc[/ame]
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I've been waiting to see some more track results for the tS, because IMO it's more representative (most people who go to a track are going to ditch the Primacies pretty quickly). Nice to see it picked up almost 6 seconds around VIR, that's about 2-3 seconds on a shorter track. It's too bad they didn't have an ND2 this year, but I expect the extra 26 hp won't be quite enough to catch up.
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1:48.47 was the time. Just over a second behind the 2015 STI. The 2013 BRZ ran a 1:51.3 so about 3 seconds behind. I think it'd be really close between the two cars regardless of the track.
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Nice, 2.2 is pretty significant at Laguna. VIR is definitely more of a power track, I think that's why both previous iterations of the BRZ on Primacies still led the MX-5. Hopefully we'll see more comparisons of the best versions of both cars. |
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Wasn't the last brz tested in the wet?
Edit: ah PS4S is probably the rest of the improvement. |
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I am impressed by the track package 4banger camaro. American manufacturers really stepped their game up lately
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Looks like it's the PS4, not 4S.
Isn't the BRZ TS supposed to be track-focused? Seems silly that Subaru put the regular PS4 tire on there instead of the PS4-S or Cup 2. Not sure what they were thinking as it would have made a 1-1.5 second difference over a 1 minute lap. Still, 4.6 seconds improvement overall for the TS vs. the 2013 BRZ is not bad.
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Agreed. The BRZ tested last year was on a damp track. IIRC it's lap time was horrible and significantly slower than the BRZ tested there years before (2013 I think?).
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2017 BRZ PP - 3:19.7 2018 BRZ tS - 3:14.0 Considering VIR is a fairly long circuit and the '17 was 1 second behind the '13 on a cool, dry track, I'm willing to guess the '17 would've lapped somewhere in the 3:16 range. C&D said the track was dry but there were a few standing puddles on track. Good tires definitely helped and while I don't really care about adding F/I to the vehicle, I can't help but wonder what kind of results would come if the car had a bit more grunt in the top end and less of a torque dip in the mid range.
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Also worth pointing out that the track was repaved and slightly modified a few years ago, which made it faster.
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Obviously that isn't the case, because of the suspension/chassis improvements and tires. But perhaps the difference between the two is marginal. I'm surprised nobody has done a direct comparison between the standard vehicle and the tS on a road course side by side.
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no surprise really...lol
we all know the primacy & amount of grip it offers. :p |
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