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07-27-2016, 03:17 AM | #1 |
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Tacoma vs f150
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Enjoyed Frs and really love the car. But baby is on the way and I been thinking about getting into truck. Of course being Toyota lover Tacoma was first choice, Double cab 4x4 Trd off road. But been looking at newish 2.7 v6 ecoboost. Will be towing something like 1k weight for business everyday. I am kinda torn between 2. 1. Price - about same 2. Power - ford 3. Size - ford There is tune for ecoboost also !! Wow pretty sick. Only thing that is stopping me is the brand name. What do you guys think ? |
07-27-2016, 07:07 AM | #2 |
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Those two trucks aren't even in the same category. Really like comparing apples and oranges when you compare a mid size and a full size truck.
If you need to tow, obviously go with the bigger, heavier truck. |
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07-27-2016, 07:47 AM | #3 |
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I would suggest neither. Out of the two the Tacoma is the one that hold resale the best, but it is not a full size truck, to compare equally you'd step up to the tundra.
I would suggest staying away from the ford though, their new aluminum body is not turning out how they thought it would, and they tend to drop in value VERY quickly. Look towards the GM products, as the motor is incredibly reliable, the interior is high quality, and the new body style is gorgeous. Super reliable and obviously able to make power seeing as the basic engine architecture is derived from other GM v8's. You can even get a 6.2 in certain variations. Pricewise, you can get a Silverado for around the same as an F150 or Dodge Ram. |
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I'd get a Ridgeline... Well within its lower towing limits and very comfortable.
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Miata or a good clean S2000... Oh wait I just went with the standard responses here.
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Towing: Ford
'I think I need a truck': Tacoma 4x4 TRD off road in LA? LMFAO, why? Save the gas money unless your ego is that fragile. Growing up my dad had an '01 F150 for towing a boat and racecar trailer. Over ~6 years the thing sailed past 100k miles with only minor issues criss-crossing California. Our boat trailer had more issues than the Ford did. Truck was great until I totaled it in 2007 being a dumbass, went out and bought another one he still has to this day. Runs just fine, paint peeling off the roof but aside from that it's solid. Coilpacks would burn up and the result was the engine would just cut out from time to time, fucking stupid, spent some time on the side of the freeway futzing with it, but Toyota botched the coilpacks on the 86 and Mazda botched them on the RX-8 so whatcha gonna do? And the Ecoboost likely has its own quirks, but it still gets a ton of attention around the internet so it's not considered a time bomb yet. |
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I am very torn.
I spent hour under the sun yesterday, putting back stock tail light, rear interior back. Just have to take the header out and tune it back. Ready to trade in. I figured I need 4x4 to impress fellow bros. I made offer on full size Xlt 4x4 2.7eco over the email. If the offer is not met I am going to longo for tacoma |
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Holy shit, honesty.
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Ahh I've been looking at trucks for a year and can't commit. Pops just bought a fully decked out CrewMax Tundra 4x4 and he loves it, he upgraded when his previous gen Tundra hit 240,000 miles. A stripper 2WD Tundra Double Cab SR model with tow hitch will run you about $26,999 + TTL. I think that's a great value proposition and am tempted myself. With the 4.6L coming out of the Lexus GX it's a smooth and trusty operator. Bump it up to the crewmax and you've legitimately got SUV space. The tech is archaic and you'll be getting 17 mpg average (http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/tun...=&submodel_id=) but the interior is still good and standard features is best in class... there's always a trade off.
If you can tolerate the space, go with the Tacoma - especially if you can haggle down to invoice. A 4x4 3.5L double cab is a great truck for anyone under 6'. The seat doesn't have height adjustment, so ya gotta fit the mold so to speak. Folks complain about a hunting gearbox that's constantly shifting on the highway, you can put it into o/d to hold high gear and that'll solve it - I also believe that's one software update away from being resolved. For the record, I didn't notice any extraordinary shifting on my test drive. Finding a deal on a Taco is a needle in a haystack. They seem to appreciate after they leave the dealer lot. That being said it's hard to pass up the bang-for-the-buck of half ton pick-ups when the small size pickups: taco, canyon/colorado, frontier, ridgeline? are so expensive it's harder to pass on the extra space. My neighbor has a 1500 Silverado that he's happy to the moon with it albeit it's a $45,000 truck. When I checked them out at dealership I thought they were a little overpriced and I read about transmission grenade stories on the forums, from my neighbor and from Moss Bros Chevy tech's it was enough to put me off the model. Then consider the packages/options required for what should be standard equipment and loses ground to other models. It's got fine pedigree but you need to haul 1,000 lbs - a Civic can do that For those that need to haul heavier cargo would go to an HD model for the same money. I think it's the best looking half ton out there, for what it's worth. Another friend has a GMC Sierra 2500 HD Denali with the 6.6L Duramax and it is literally an office on wheels. He's a boss man in construction so I get it, but to say excessive is an understatement. Stickers for something like $71,000 but can be had in the mid $50k if you're willing to go out of state (his was in Idaho). As for the Ford...I really want to like it and if you're comfortable with the ecoboost than there's massive appeal to it because it's in a class on its own. The 2.7L has gotten favorable reviews for a light duty truck. Not sure you'd want to tune it though given its your family vehicle and you'd likely want to ensure you can provide for them and not be stranded or incur unnecessary stress/costs for a few extra horsepower (but hey, to each their own), also... it's a damn truck... /soapbox. Everyone praises the 3.5L but unless you're towing heavy cargo, what's the point right? I'm a believer in the N/A V8 for a half ton, the appeal to the turbo isn't there and the mpg difference is about 1 mile per gallon (http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-150...=&submodel_id=) so to me the F-150 is in the same boat as the Tundra with its decade old V8. I prefer the interior on the Toyota SR over the Ford XL w/ 101A model. But I'm a cheap bastard that has a budget of $30k and I also believe I'm going to keep it for 150k miles and I have no faith in the boosted powertrain making it that long nor am I confident the body will hold up well to years of dings, dents and abuse. If you think you'll be dumping the truck by 50k miles for something else, go for econboost. A 2x4 XL 101A SuperCrew with the 2.7L will offer much more interior volume than the Taco and be cheaper at about $29,300 + TTL or bump it up to a 4x4 XLT 101A model for $34,200 + TTL. Better for family trips. Though you will lose much more on the Ford than the Toyota. And congrats! |
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You are doing yourself a disservice by not looking at the "better" trucks. Do some research on that aluminum body, and the ACTUAL gas mileage of the ecoboost engines. Then compare to a GMC sierra or a Chevrolet Silverado double cab.
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get a ford f150 svt raptor..it's sits high already so the fat chicks can't jump to reach it when trying to get inside.
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Well thanks all for .2cents.
I forgo to mention, mpg is last of my list. If this was 5years ago I would have just gotten Toyota and call it a day but I feel like Toyota brand is boring now. And Msrp of the f150 I am looking at is 45k, would love to step it up to lariat or plat but with baby coming and few other stuff they are little out of price range. Another turn off is there is no such thing as invoice deal on Tacoma, if you know one please let me know. Tacoma is one of very few cars dealerships actually make money on. I will give Chevy test drive, I never thought about them. |
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