what to add on to my muffler delete

[bcmakesiteasy]

disclaimer: I'm a complete noob when it comes to cars. (i was quite proud when i installed my muffler delete myself )

Hey Guys,

So I have the berk dual exit muffler delete on my FRS and I wanted to get some aftermarket exhaust parts. I can't for the life of me figure out where a cat pipe/front pipe etc would connect to my muffler delete. I would assume its the midpipe? Where would a downpipe connect to? here is the diagram i've been looking at to figure out how all this stuff works. Any recommendations are welcome...i would prefer a piece with a resonator as my muffler delete's drone is almost unbearable at the moment.

[NickFRS]

Well you removed the part of the exhaust that brings down the DB level and doesn't change power gains that much. Should of got some mufflers and a header w/cat delete. Would of still been loud and made more power... Your in for a world of rasp n exhaust tickets.

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Congratz on your install thats a great feeling !

your next step could be a drop in and search for a Midpipe( i don't know many companies that make them.)
After that add a HiFlow front pipe or a Catless Front pipe (depending on preference on how loud & Raspy)
after that go for a tune and you'd be set for a while

[86_ZN6]

Berk is modular so it will bolt on to aftermarket pieces

Correct you will need a midpipe.

I think we are the only one that makes a midpipe



Only way to lessen the drone is to add a resonator to your berk.

Or change them to these muffler deletes

[SLICVIC]

@86_ZN6 nice looking products you got there. any pics of the "muffler deletes" mounted to show fitment with the rear bumper?
@bcmakesiteasy congrats on your install. always good feeling to do your own work, u bond with your car

[usptwins]

ARK performance has a midpipe and front pipe if im not mistaken

[86_ZN6]

Originally Posted by SLICVIC

@86_ZN6 nice looking products you got there. any pics of the "muffler deletes" mounted to show fitment with the rear bumper?

there's a lot of pics and vids on the development thread

---> http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24472

[6-Shift]

What you're thinking of is the front pipe, which is the part after the header and overpipe. An aftermarket over pipe and front pipe with a resonator or high flow cat would give you essentially a header back exhaust. The mid pipe doesn't make a huge difference (from what I've seen) but if you have the money...SMS has a good point, a drop in air filter from K&N, HKS, Perrin, Works, or Zeta would give you a little more power too for cheap.

TL;DR: spend your money on drop in air filter, over pipe, and front pipe. I believe Nameless has an Over pipe/front pipe combo which would be a great option too. Good luck

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by 6-Shift

What you're thinking of is the front pipe, which is the part after the header and overpipe. An aftermarket over pipe and front pipe with a resonator or high flow cat would give you essentially a header back exhaust. The mid pipe doesn't make a huge difference (from what I've seen) but if you have the money...SMS has a good point, a drop in air filter from K&N, HKS, Perrin, Works, or Zeta would give you a little more power too for cheap.

TL;DR: spend your money on drop in air filter, over pipe, and front pipe. I believe Nameless has an Over pipe/front pipe combo which would be a great option too. Good luck

A nameless over/front pipe combo is the way to go actually good suggestion

[bcmakesiteasy]

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

A nameless over/front pipe combo is the way to go actually good suggestion

thanks everybody for the help! So essentially what i'm getting from everybody is that the midpipe doesn't offer much HP gains and there arent that many options available to swap it out. So when companies like nameless, berk, invidia etc mention a cat delete or catted pipe they mean its a replacement for the front pipe? I'm thinking of leaving the midpipe, customizing my muffler delete by adding a resonator to it, and replacing the front pipe/over pipe. Also keep in mind I have an AT...does that limit my options? Are these aftermarket front pipes compatible for both transmissions?

From what i've been reading here on the forums, members are saying that intake's aren't worth the cost per HP gains...I was thinking of just getting a a drop in filter from K&N (which I can get for a discount because my buddy is a sales rep there). Thoughts?

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by bcmakesiteasy

thanks everybody for the help! So essentially what i'm getting from everybody is that the midpipe doesn't offer much HP gains and there arent that many options available to swap it out. So when companies like nameless, berk, invidia etc mention a cat delete or catted pipe they mean its a replacement for the front pipe? I'm thinking of leaving the midpipe, customizing my muffler delete by adding a resonator to it, and replacing the front pipe/over pipe. Also keep in mind I have an AT...does that limit my options? Are these aftermarket front pipes compatible for both transmissions?

From what i've been reading here on the forums, members are saying that intake's aren't worth the cost per HP gains...I was thinking of just getting a a drop in filter from K&N (which I can get for a discount because my buddy is a sales rep there). Thoughts?

If I'm correct nameless offers their front/over combo for AT's but remember installation is a bit painful with the requirement of lifting the engine.

Regarding the intake, get that k&n without even thinking about it

[CaptainSlow]

What resonator would you all recommend for this application? I am getting the Berk muffler delete as well, and I was just wondering in case I decide to go the resonator route to keep the drone down...I really don't even know where to start (like what size, length, ID, manufacturer, etc)

[86_ZN6]

Originally Posted by CaptainSlow

What resonator would you all recommend for this application? I am getting the Berk muffler delete as well, and I was just wondering in case I decide to go the resonator route to keep the drone down...I really don't even know where to start (like what size, length, ID, manufacturer, etc)

we use 18 inch resonators on our exhaust sytems

[MooKz]

This is the setup I'm going for on my FRS.. I think it sounds absolutely awesome and would cost less that 500 shipped

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5JB_m2BLJg&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]BRZ/FR-S Berk Exhaust Sound Clips (Camera on car) - YouTube[/ame]

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