Wheel offset on watanabes? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Decameron · 03-25-2010, 07:20 AM

Hey guys, I've been following these forums for a little bit to find out more information on the car we're all clearly obsessed with, and I've been pretty impressed with how much some of you seem to know about modifying cars. I really liked the red panda paint job with watanabe's illustration, and it made me wonder how possible/reasonable it would be to actually put some watanabe's on an ft-86 when it comes out. I think it would look great if you could get a size that fills the wheel well enough visually, but I don't really know much about how the offset on a "deep-dish" wheel like that would affect handling/performance. Anyone know much about these type of wheels?

Midship Runabout · 03-25-2010, 04:05 PM

A deep offset( big lip) will affect the scrub radius.

some cars love deep offsets (240sx) and others not so much (s2000). we will have to wait till the car comes out to really know anything about the lower offsets that we can run on the FT86.

watanabes are so old school gangster i dont know if they will work with the ft. dont get me wrong the red panda in your avatar looks sweet but hell i dont even know if they make 18 inch wheels that this car will be begging for. just my opinion.

ichitaka05 · 03-25-2010, 05:24 PM

Yeah, iirc currently Watanabe make up to 16's. Someone had special order 17's to put it on S2k... but it cost them an arm & leg for it.

Go for Volk, Advan, BBS, Enkei or even Buddy Club. For the price you pay for Watanabe you can get same or better rims.

cyde01 · 03-25-2010, 06:38 PM

actually 17s are available without special order, but i don't think the crazy negative offsets are available at 17. as ichitaka said, other brands cost about the same and weigh less, others like enkei cost considerably less. but if you're looking for 15s you're prob not gonna find a lighter wheel than magnesium watanabes.

4agze · 03-25-2010, 07:31 PM

if the FT86 comes out in a 5x114.3 hope and prey watanabe will make a lug pattern cuz, right now they don't have 5x114.3 on r-type or F8-type 8 spoke wheels...

ichitaka05 · 03-25-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cyde01

actually 17s are available without special order, but i don't think the crazy negative offsets are available at 17. as ichitaka said, other brands cost about the same and weigh less, others like enkei cost considerably less. but if you're looking for 15s you're prob not gonna find a lighter wheel than magnesium watanabes.

Really? Huh, my friend wanted to put Watanabe on his S2k like someone did online, but he couldn't find the place that sells 17", so instead he went with Buddy Club ones.

Midship Runabout · 03-25-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 4agze

if the FT86 comes out in a 5x114.3 hope and prey watanabe will make a lug pattern cuz, right now they don't have 5x114.3 on r-type or F8-type 8 spoke wheels...

That was something else i was wondering if they even made a 5x114.3

4agze · 03-25-2010, 09:56 PM

I dont know about 17s on thier web site they only have up to 16s
http://www.watanabewheel.com/products.htm

Decameron · 03-27-2010, 12:46 AM

Thanks for the insight, guys! I guess this is probably something that we won't be able to speculate much on until it gets closer to the release date.

cyde01 · 03-29-2010, 03:41 PM

f8 type is available in 17. it's listed on their japanese website and they have gallery pics with customer cars that sport 17s.

ichitaka05 · 03-29-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cyde01

f8 type is available in 17. it's listed on their japanese website and they have gallery pics with customer cars that sport 17s.

Yeah~! I've seen that pic before. Yeah, it's available in Japan, but I don't think they have it in US.

03-25-2010, 07:20 AM	#1
Decameron Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: 2002 Toyota Echo M/T Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wheel offset on watanabes? Hey guys, I've been following these forums for a little bit to find out more information on the car we're all clearly obsessed with, and I've been pretty impressed with how much some of you seem to know about modifying cars. I really liked the red panda paint job with watanabe's illustration, and it made me wonder how possible/reasonable it would be to actually put some watanabe's on an ft-86 when it comes out. I think it would look great if you could get a size that fills the wheel well enough visually, but I don't really know much about how the offset on a "deep-dish" wheel like that would affect handling/performance. Anyone know much about these type of wheels?

03-25-2010, 05:24 PM	#3
ichitaka05 Site Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: ichi 86 Project Location: Middle of No where Posts: 20,965 Thanks: 7,663 Thanked 19,051 Times in 8,326 Posts Mentioned: 677 Post(s) Tagged: 27 Thread(s)	Yeah, iirc currently Watanabe make up to 16's. Someone had special order 17's to put it on S2k... but it cost them an arm & leg for it. Go for Volk, Advan, BBS, Enkei or even Buddy Club. For the price you pay for Watanabe you can get same or better rims. __________________

03-29-2010, 03:41 PM	#10
cyde01 ft86club resident b-boy Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Yamaha R3, moonslate 2018 GT Black Location: LA Area So Cal Posts: 1,214 Thanks: 142 Thanked 208 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	f8 type is available in 17. it's listed on their japanese website and they have gallery pics with customer cars that sport 17s. Last edited by cyde01; 03-29-2010 at 03:51 PM.

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Midship Runabout formerly Dixie Normous Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: The ladies wild! Location: ())_)CRAYOLA)_))> Posts: 996 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	A deep offset( big lip) will affect the scrub radius. some cars love deep offsets (240sx) and others not so much (s2000). we will have to wait till the car comes out to really know anything about the lower offsets that we can run on the FT86. watanabes are so old school gangster i dont know if they will work with the ft. dont get me wrong the red panda in your avatar looks sweet but hell i dont even know if they make 18 inch wheels that this car will be begging for. just my opinion.

03-25-2010, 06:38 PM	#4
cyde01 ft86club resident b-boy Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Yamaha R3, moonslate 2018 GT Black Location: LA Area So Cal Posts: 1,214 Thanks: 142 Thanked 208 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	actually 17s are available without special order, but i don't think the crazy negative offsets are available at 17. as ichitaka said, other brands cost about the same and weigh less, others like enkei cost considerably less. but if you're looking for 15s you're prob not gonna find a lighter wheel than magnesium watanabes.

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Decameron Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: 2002 Toyota Echo M/T Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for the insight, guys! I guess this is probably something that we won't be able to speculate much on until it gets closer to the release date.

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