Subaru Testing a BRZ with STI Badging and a Big Wing

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

All the time, but they have super ridiculous cheap parts that interchange through some of the generations and they also had a factory turbo car....as well as multiple engine swap options and transmission options in a similar chassis.


People often complained about why the original Miata didn't come with the turbo 1.6. Especially since it was so easy to do as that was an engine option at the time and the Miata motor literally had all the plug ins for the turbo...just blocked off.


Almost like people asking for FA20DIT instead, except less of a hassle to package.

Let's not forget they HAVE an turbo option now standard if they also want turbo in a Miata.

That is ofcourse to go buy the Fiat 124. That's a 1.8 Single Turbo, it was a hoot to drive. too bad it's still looses to the ND miata is some ways. I love the thing thought.

FIATA Fiat is Also The Answer

[imnotsureaboutbrz]

Originally Posted by Zaku

Let's not forget they HAVE an turbo option now standard if they also want turbo in a Miata.

That is ofcourse to go buy the Fiat 124. That's a 1.8 Single Turbo, it was a hoot to drive. too bad it's still looses to the ND miata is some ways. I love the thing thought.

FIATA Fiat is Also The Answer

Frankly, if I didn't need that back seat (4 y/o) I would be in the 124 Abarth w/ Brembos and a tune... But I'm still happy with my car and I like the extra elbow room too...

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Zaku

Do people not know how to down shift twice to get passing power? lol every poor old miata must be crashing left and right from not having enough torque.

In any case, I guess now I can get factory suspension bits, and hopefully not void warranty etc. Guessing that it lowers the car alittle bit, guessing there's no difference in the Ts brembos. Besides that Glad I didn't get any body bits yet I want to see those new under body spoilers.

any pictures of the under body spoilers?

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by imnotsureaboutbrz

Frankly, if I didn't need that back seat (4 y/o) I would be in the 124 Abarth w/ Brembos and a tune... But I'm still happy with my car and I like the extra elbow room too...

I had the opposite problem I only wanted a two seater, but my GF kept complaining. And then once I got the BRZ(I came from an S2000) and ended up liking the BRZ she complains it's not Practical so I got a old CRV to daily to keep her happy and to keep my BRZ prestine. Now she complains about how she misses the convertible and wants the 124 or a RF. After weeks of back and forth, I get to keep the BRZ now and I'm gonna TS the Shit out of it!

....that and save money for another convertible : P at that point I like something Boxster or AMG 55 SLK or better. Got my sights set on the Jag

Originally Posted by spike021

any pictures of the under body spoilers?

it's the same Spoilers available with the current 17 BRZ those are alrady Sti, I made the mistake and thought wrong too.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Zaku

it's the same Spoilers available with the current 17 BRZ those are alrady Sti, I made the mistake and thought wrong too.

Darnit, Subaru!! Stop trolling us!!! (loljk)

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by spike021

Darnit, Subaru!! Stop trolling us!!! (loljk)

I'm interested on the coil spring they are talking about with the Sach, is it lowering pink STI springs or just the one they put on the PP. I want the lower ride height but I wanna stay with factory parts! I would prolly buy the sach and the springs if given the oppotunity. Pretty sure the brembo is the same.

So far I want the following:

Sti Under Body Spolier (front)
Sti Rear Diffuser
Badges here and there (sti and ts)
Springs possibly the dampers if the price is good.
Sti Shift knob(if it's nice)

That's about It I already have the Sti wheels and I don't care for the side skirts.

The wing is tempting, but I would have to change trunks or leave holes in my current wing lol I wish they came out with Plugs too.

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by Zaku

Let's not forget they HAVE an turbo option now standard if they also want turbo in a Miata.

That is ofcourse to go buy the Fiat 124. That's a 1.8 Single Turbo, it was a hoot to drive. too bad it's still looses to the ND miata is some ways. I love the thing thought.

FIATA Fiat is Also The Answer

Actually the Fiat has a 1.4 liter turbo. Same engine from Dodge Dart and Fiat Abarth 500. And I haven't seen a single review of the two of them where the reviewers picked the Fiat as the better sports car.

Plus the Miata's engine is very receptive to (relatively) cheap modifications. Longtube header, full exhaust and a tune and you're looking at a 40 hp gain. Something the BRZ can only dream about.

[Drambeenie]

I think i'll take the 18inch wheels and call it a day.

[DAEMANO]

Going to retract my previous doubt about the end result. This car seems pretty well sorted and worth the extra coin for a more serious twin from the factory. So for those who don't want to buy a base car and mod it up, this would do. Or toss on camber bolts, header, tune, and e85 on this car and you're "done". Well kinda.

The tires we'll find out what we get in N.A. probably not PS4s, but PSS have considerably more grip, so the tires could be something more in line with the PS4's grip level from another mfg (maybe an OEMish Bridgestone tire).

Now North America finally gets something roughly equivalent to the MX-5 Clubsport + BBS/Brembo that auto press keep testing base 86's against (although I doubt we'll ever see another head to head because it's been done to death.) In that last MT test Randy Pobst was marginally faster in what is a base 86 vs a Clubsported out MX-5 RF. I'd expect the new BRZ tS to be somewhere between 1-3 seconds faster at SoWS driven by someone like Pobst if the aero and tires on the BRZ tS are legit. Then again who cares about all this shit? Drive what you want.

[Lebby83]

Originally Posted by Zaku

The wing is tempting, but I would have to change trunks or leave holes in my current wing lol I wish they came out with Plugs too.

We can swap trunks when ever I get the tS... I have a feeling I'm not going to like the big wing.

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Actually the Fiat has a 1.4 liter turbo. Same engine from Dodge Dart and Fiat Abarth 500. And I haven't seen a single review of the two of them where the reviewers picked the Fiat as the better sports car.

Plus the Miata's engine is very receptive to (relatively) cheap modifications. Longtube header, full exhaust and a tune and you're looking at a 40 hp gain. Something the BRZ can only dream about.

oh you're right! I'm sorry I mixed it up with the 4c the engine that should have gone into it and it should have been an ALFA!

[WolfpackS2k]

Personally I'd rather have 17 inch wheels. The BRZ is a small car it doesn't need 18s for brake clearance or any other reason. Lightweight 17s are lighter than 18s and 17 inch tires are typically less expensive as well.

Just upgrading the tires (from the factory) is going to make the biggest difference at the track. I'd like to see track times for a stock BRZ against a tS model with identical rubber.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Zaku

I'm interested on the coil spring they are talking about with the Sach, is it lowering pink STI springs or just the one they put on the PP. I want the lower ride height but I wanna stay with factory parts! I would prolly buy the sach and the springs if given the oppotunity. Pretty sure the brembo is the same.

So far I want the following:

Sti Under Body Spolier (front)
Sti Rear Diffuser
Badges here and there (sti and ts)
Springs possibly the dampers if the price is good.
Sti Shift knob(if it's nice)

That's about It I already have the Sti wheels and I don't care for the side skirts.

The wing is tempting, but I would have to change trunks or leave holes in my current wing lol I wish they came out with Plugs too.

Yeah, the Sachs thing is interesting. I'm curious if it's the same as what I have, too.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Drambeenie

I think i'll take the 18inch wheels and call it a day.

Curious if it'd fit with our brembos though. It might but that sort of depends on if the tS version has the same set.