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01-31-2017, 01:00 PM | #15 | |
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If it were my car, and they couldn't isolate the problem, I'd have them replace the power steering motor and all associated wires and connectors. humfrz |
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Well, supposedly the issue is resolved. I arrived at the dealer with the power steering not functional to be sure that the techs could observe it (left the car running). They did observe it, and observed it several more times on a test drive around the lot. Pulled a code C1513, which they said is a control module failure. From there, they disconnected the steering module harness, reconnected it, and could not get the fault to reappear.
In total, they had the car for a about an hour and a half and charged me $80 for the diagnostics time. Oh well. Kicking myself for not getting into the dash myself and checking for loose connections, but I've been busy, and my driveway is a cold place to hang out at the moment. Could have been worse. A new steering module would have been $629. So, for anyone else experiencing this and comes across this thread: if you're handy, you might try poking around under the dash, looking for loose wire harness connections in the vicinity of the steering column. Might save yourself $80. |
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Agreed. If it shows up again then it could very well be the module being intermittent and needing replacement. Sure, the part isn't cheap, but I think what's likely to work out to less than a grand in parts and labor is worth the peace of mind that the power steering won't cut out in a situation that would affect the driver's control and make an accident possible. If it's not an enormous job, you could also DIY and only have the part cost to bear.
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The power steering warning popped up today. I did not experience any power steering loss. I came home and parked it but there was a burn smell. Was there a burn smell? Will check the fuse box tomorrow but will need to drive it to closest dealership. Do you have a pic of the loose connector? In searching I did notice the recalls in Australia. Will need to read in more detail. Update: Turns out its the brake light switch that went out. Got the ABS and traction control lights on when I drive. Replacing the switch should fix it. Last edited by E_br4ke; 02-06-2017 at 11:00 AM. |
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This just happened to me twice today. I have a 2013 FR-S 10 Series with about 58,000 miles on it. We bought it last month and have only put a few hundred miles on it. It appears to be stock, but we were under it the other day and notice holes on the bottom of the front air dam indicating that something had been attached with screws, so who knows what was done to it before it was returned to stock.
I hope someone finds a resolution to this as our car is out of warranty and I would rather buy an exhaust system than fix the power steering. I will poke around under the dash and look for loose connectors, but a picture would be helpful. Thanks!! |
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It's been a few days and no re-occurrence. The only thing I did after the two incidents were to look at the fuse under the hood (which looked fine) and looked under the dash for loose connections. I did jiggle all of the harnesses I could reach.
I had noticed previously that there was some build of that white stuff around the battery terminals, so the next day we thoroughly cleaned the battery and terminals. I'm not sure if that helped the situation or not, but I'm sure it didn't hurt. Thanks to anyone who can provide a solution. This car will eventually go to my sons, and having a root cause would give me some piece of mind that they will be safe. Thanks!! |
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In Australia we got recall on power steering.
Mines been in got new powersteering control electronics and harness https://www.torquenews.com/1084/suba...eering-failure |
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however it appears all the units will accumulate the "debris" then its possible if the debris is disturbed by other means, ie someone poking around in that area or rough road minor impact, could dislodge that debris and have same effect ?? Q1: What is the condition? A1: The subject vehicles are equipped with electric power steering (EPS). During normal driving operation, the EPS rotation angle sensor terminals may wear over time. This wear of the connector terminal plating accumulates in debris which may oxidise and become non-conductive. Under this condition if the driver’s knee contacts the knee airbag lower cover, the EPS wire harness routed behind the cover also moves significantly which allows the terminal to contact the debris resulting in electrical contact failure. In this condition, the EPS ECU turns on the warning light and the steering assist is interrupted whilst manual steering is maintained. The loss of power steering assist will increase the steering effort at low speeds which may increase the risk of an accident. You guys might not get the recall, but it may be possible for the same fault to develop, given a different set of circumstances ? http://www.toyota.com.au/news/toyota...to-be-recalled |
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I guess I jinxed myself. It happened twice during one trip yesterday after writing that it had not re-occurred. I had been driving for about 15 minutes in stop-and-go traffic on the freeway, and as I exited, I lost power steering for about a second. I felt it in the steering wheel, looked down and saw the indicator on the dash come on, and then it shut off, and I got power steering back. About 2 minutes later, I lost power steering again. I had to stop for a traffic signal, so I shut the engine off and re-started, and I got power steering back again.
Does anyone have a solution for this? Do I need to replace something just to be on the safe side? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Peter |
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