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Gixxersixxerman · 10-05-2014, 04:06 AM

I've never seen any series that treats accidents like F1.. This is my first year watching every race, but I've seen cars on the side of straights blown apart and the driver walking down to a gap in the fence and the cars racing right by.. Now stuff like this.. Wow.. When a car is sitting off the side of the track why does F1 just throw a local caution and not a safety car??

RacerX · 10-05-2014, 05:53 AM

They did call it out when Sutil crashed. Bianchi crashed under the Safety car.

White64Goat · 10-05-2014, 11:44 AM

I think Sutil crashed, Bianchi crashed the next lap and then they put out the safety car. Not sure they even have footage of the crash unless the camera down-track that showed Sutil's car was a stationery cam pointing towards that corner and it just wasn't being shown on the TV at that time. Maybe they have it on tape.

Martinius · 10-05-2014, 12:16 PM

A freak accident, but looks like Bianchi's car went underneath the tractor, and the top portion of the car was basically cut off. He has serious head injuries and had a surgery done. He's breathing on his own, so let's hope that it's a good sign....keep fighting Jules!

Teseo · 10-05-2014, 12:53 PM

I still dont get how you guys still watching this crap
Dont mind me, i just miss ol days

Martinius · 10-05-2014, 01:16 PM

It's a drug, simple as

rice_classic · 10-05-2014, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman

I've never seen any series that treats accidents like F1.. This is my first year watching every race, but I've seen cars on the side of straights blown apart and the driver walking down to a gap in the fence and the cars racing right by.. Now stuff like this.. Wow.. When a car is sitting off the side of the track why does F1 just throw a local caution and not a safety car??

IMHO, that's how it should be.

Yellow flag = NO PASSING and NO driving on the limit. There should never be an accident in a double-waving-yellow-flag area. Yellow flag means caution (driver off track or re-entering) and double waiving means DANGER, BE PREPARED TO STOP!

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Originally Posted by RacerX

They did call it out when Sutil crashed. Bianchi crashed under the Safety car.

Bianchi lost control in a double-waving-yellow-flag zone and while the SC car had been deployed, he had not yet gone around the track to pick it up so his crash technically did not take place "behind the SC". To me that detail is important because getting it wrong in a yellow-flag zone and getting wrong behind a SC is a very different level of negligence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo

I still dont get how you guys still watching this crap

Nobody cares.

UPDATE: Sutil has reported that Bianchi's car slid sideways into the tractor and the entire driver-protective-crash-structure was removed "2-3 inches below the drivers helmet"!!!!!

rice_classic · 10-05-2014, 04:25 PM

RacerX · 10-05-2014, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White64Goat

I think Sutil crashed, Bianchi crashed the next lap and then they put out the safety car. Not sure they even have footage of the crash unless the camera down-track that showed Sutil's car was a stationery cam pointing towards that corner and it just wasn't being shown on the TV at that time. Maybe they have it on tape.

Yeah you're right. I thought the SC was already out. NBCSN really sucks compared to Sky F1. Although admittedly it was pretty confusing.

I hope Jules isn't permanently injured.

Instead of using a Saftey Car, which always screws up strategies, and takes time to deploy and collect the field, why don't they enforce an immediate speed limit for all drivers. If a car goes off, crane and marshals are on the track, everyone drive 70mph until it's sorted.

rice_classic · 10-05-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RacerX

Instead of using a Saftey Car, which always screws up strategies, and takes time to deploy and collect the field, why don't they enforce an immediate speed limit for all drivers. If a car goes off, crane and marshals are on the track, everyone drive 70mph until it's sorted.

Advertising.

In professional motorsports, the safety car is an advertisement. That revenue stream will not be tampered with.

RacerX · 10-05-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

Advertising.

In professional motorsports, the safety car is an advertisement. That revenue stream will not be tampered with.

That sounds absolutely ridiculous.... and you're probably right.

reni · 10-06-2014, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo

I still dont get how you guys still watching this crap
Dont mind me, i just miss ol days

Sorry nobody got their face burned off this season.

torqdork · 10-06-2014, 11:03 AM

I watched it last night after running a track day. Poor Bianchi, so young and talented, then this. Wishing him a full recovery although latest reports aren't encouraging.

About the race, Will Buxton said the race could've been run in the dry if promoters (read Bernie) agreed to move the race up 2-3 hours but refused.

Press is gushing about Hamilton's "heroic" overtake of Rosberg but the way I saw it was that Nico made a mistake at corner exit on to the straight, the car wiggled and slowed him just enough for Lewis to take advantage. The real heroic overtakes came from Vettel with his epic outside passes. I think he'll miss Newey at Ferrari.

I feel badly for the Japanese fans. They're such motorsports fanatics and deserved a good show at one of the all-time great, historic circuits. Maybe it's time to adjust the schedule to move their GP away from typhoon season.

rice_classic · 10-06-2014, 11:18 AM

[ame="http://vimeo.com/108123476"]Bianchi Suzuka Crash - Slowmotion on Vimeo[/ame]

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10-05-2014, 04:06 AM	#911
Gixxersixxerman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Toyota GT86, 66 beetle, 11 GSXR 750 Location: Las Vegas, NV. Posts: 1,382 Thanks: 575 Thanked 836 Times in 436 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've never seen any series that treats accidents like F1.. This is my first year watching every race, but I've seen cars on the side of straights blown apart and the driver walking down to a gap in the fence and the cars racing right by.. Now stuff like this.. Wow.. When a car is sitting off the side of the track why does F1 just throw a local caution and not a safety car??

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RacerX Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: United States Posts: 131 Thanks: 3 Thanked 44 Times in 32 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	They did call it out when Sutil crashed. Bianchi crashed under the Safety car.

10-05-2014, 11:44 AM	#913
White64Goat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ CBS LTD MT, 02 WRX Location: Fred. Co. Md. Posts: 2,346 Thanks: 65 Thanked 1,111 Times in 627 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I think Sutil crashed, Bianchi crashed the next lap and then they put out the safety car. Not sure they even have footage of the crash unless the camera down-track that showed Sutil's car was a stationery cam pointing towards that corner and it just wasn't being shown on the TV at that time. Maybe they have it on tape.

10-05-2014, 12:16 PM	#914
Martinius Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2014 WRB BRZ ST Location: GTA Posts: 268 Thanks: 56 Thanked 156 Times in 91 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	A freak accident, but looks like Bianchi's car went underneath the tractor, and the top portion of the car was basically cut off. He has serious head injuries and had a surgery done. He's breathing on his own, so let's hope that it's a good sign....keep fighting Jules!

10-05-2014, 12:53 PM	#915
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Martinius Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2014 WRB BRZ ST Location: GTA Posts: 268 Thanks: 56 Thanked 156 Times in 91 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's a drug, simple as

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torqdork Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: RV-7 Location: Out West Posts: 1,818 Thanks: 1,042 Thanked 893 Times in 562 Posts Mentioned: 45 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I watched it last night after running a track day. Poor Bianchi, so young and talented, then this. Wishing him a full recovery although latest reports aren't encouraging. About the race, Will Buxton said the race could've been run in the dry if promoters (read Bernie) agreed to move the race up 2-3 hours but refused. Press is gushing about Hamilton's "heroic" overtake of Rosberg but the way I saw it was that Nico made a mistake at corner exit on to the straight, the car wiggled and slowed him just enough for Lewis to take advantage. The real heroic overtakes came from Vettel with his epic outside passes. I think he'll miss Newey at Ferrari. I feel badly for the Japanese fans. They're such motorsports fanatics and deserved a good show at one of the all-time great, historic circuits. Maybe it's time to adjust the schedule to move their GP away from typhoon season.

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