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Chris3007 · 11-21-2018, 02:17 PM

Hello everyone, I finished installing my supercharger and thought I would share some feedback here:

The Install:
Overall a very smooth install. It took me about 10 hrs total working by myself (minus a buddy helping set the blower on the manifold) over the course of a few days. I also installed the radium dual catch can kit during this time. No major hang ups or challenges, instructions are very clear and concise.

I purchased the kit used and had to buy some new consumables (gaskets, crush washers, and a few missing hoses). Support from superchargers online was very good and was able to get everything in ~ 2 weeks time.

I would highly recommend quality hose clamp pliers. I bought them specifically for this project and used them a lot. I too, like others suggested connected the coolant hoses to the back of the heat exchanger before placing on the manifold, this was a big help.

Driving Impressions:

I went from OFT stage 2 with EL headers and 3" cat back so the change was not as drastic as going from stock. I also am currently only using the Edelbrock CARB tune because winter is here in NY and only had a few days to drive before putting away for the winter. I plan to get the Delicious tune in the spring (I feel there is a lot more to be had with a better tune).

Overall very happy with the new power band, when it cracks 4k RMPs it really goes. The best I can liken it to from past driving experiences is my stage 1+ Audi TT 1.8T. Highway on ramps are much more enjoyable now!

Gas mileage hit was pretty big, I could consistently get 34 - 36 MPG highway, and now I'm averaging ~24 MPG. Also, I may be crazy but it seems the exhaust note is now a bit louder (and was already loud to begin with). Only other negative is the Edelbrock tune; it idles a little choppy and throttle response is mediocre, although I likely attribute this to my other exhaust mods.

Overall very happy with the kit. It was a fun project and I picked it up for a great deal. Looking forward to the better tune in the spring!

CSG Mike · 11-21-2018, 07:50 PM

@Chris3007

Your car will drive FAR better when you get a proper tune dialed in to your mods. The CARB tune is literally only meant for otherwise stock powertrains, and won't run/feel right with other power mods!

Mr_Eyo · 11-21-2018, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

@Chris3007

Your car will drive FAR better when you get a proper tune dialed in to your mods. The CARB tune is literally only meant for otherwise stock powertrains, and won't run/feel right with other power mods!

What about a catted UEL header? Would a new tune be needed over the CARB tune?

CSG Mike · 11-21-2018, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Eyo

What about a catted UEL header? Would a new tune be needed over the CARB tune?

As stated many times, the CARB tune is for the STOCK header and STOCK front pipe only.

Any deviation requires a tune to run properly.

PM to order a custom tune.

Colin86 · 11-23-2018, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shr133

How bad is your wheel spin???
I'm going to be running a similar set up. I'm finishing up my E85 tune and I have full 2 1/2" exhaust w EL header.. Hope to get my supercharger in summer...

At the drag strip I spun all the way through first gear and halfway through second. I was way too aggressive on the launch, with more practice/finesse it wouldn't have been so bad.

If conditions are right on the street I've rolled into first and maintained a decent amount of traction, although there's almost always a little slip. If conditions aren't right first gear will completely break away. Second can be rowdy, but it's uncommon to completely light the tires up the way first occasionally does. Things are drama free in third gear and above, but the car continues to pull hard. Car still had healthy acceleration in 5th at 128mph on the road course.

You're in for a good time.

B T · 12-03-2018, 01:22 PM

Has anyone here done a complete tear down of the supercharger plenum? Anyone want pictures when I do mine? I think the butterfly valve surround on the anti surge return was manufactured incorrectly (confirmed for initial models by edelbrock but not mine) so I'm going to tear down and find out.

Nitro22 · 12-05-2018, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdTRD

I guess it's belt time. 23K miles and a little over 2 years. I heard a slight squeal a couple weeks ago on start up (a little cold outside) but that's it, I never heard that piece slapping the hood, could have been while the car was warming up though.

Sorry to hear about the belt. Did you happen to notice if the belt jumped a rib on the water pump pulley or the a/c compressor pulley?

Thanks

BigFatFlip · 12-05-2018, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B T

Has anyone here done a complete tear down of the supercharger plenum? Anyone want pictures when I do mine? I think the butterfly valve surround on the anti surge return was manufactured incorrectly (confirmed for initial models by edelbrock but not mine) so I'm going to tear down and find out.

Ewww, that doesn't sound good. I no longer have mine, but I've always been curious about it, so some pics would much appreciated!

BirdTRD · 12-05-2018, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitro22

Sorry to hear about the belt. Did you happen to notice if the belt jumped a rib on the water pump pulley or the a/c compressor pulley?

Thanks

I actually checked for that. The belt was where it was supposed to be on all the pulleys so I'm not sure what may have caused it to come apart like that. I can't imagine that it's just "normal" wear and tear though.

GrabTheWheel · 12-05-2018, 11:47 PM

I know someone on here must know somebody who wants a barely used Edelbrock kit for Christmas (less than 1000 miles on the kit). If so please send me a PM.

gtengr · 12-06-2018, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdTRD

I actually checked for that. The belt was where it was supposed to be on all the pulleys so I'm not sure what may have caused it to come apart like that. I can't imagine that it's just "normal" wear and tear though.

FWIW, the Cosworth kit instructions recommend replacing the belt every 10k miles.

toast · 12-06-2018, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrabTheWheel

I know someone on here must know somebody who wants a barely used Edelbrock kit for Christmas (less than 1000 miles on the kit). If so please send me a PM.

This might be the only way to get one before Xmas, I've been waiting for mine for more than 2 months and am told there is a line behind me...

BirdTRD · 12-06-2018, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtengr

FWIW, the Cosworth kit instructions recommend replacing the belt every 10k miles.

Interesting. I don't see anything in the Edelbrock installation that specifies belt life or replacement interval.

jflogerzi · 12-10-2018, 01:38 AM

Has anyone installed the OEM oil cooler using the alternative throttle body option. I am guessing this would be a no go due to the supercharger?

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11-21-2018, 02:17 PM	#2899
Chris3007 Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Saratoga, NY Posts: 22 Thanks: 4 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hello everyone, I finished installing my supercharger and thought I would share some feedback here: The Install: Overall a very smooth install. It took me about 10 hrs total working by myself (minus a buddy helping set the blower on the manifold) over the course of a few days. I also installed the radium dual catch can kit during this time. No major hang ups or challenges, instructions are very clear and concise. I purchased the kit used and had to buy some new consumables (gaskets, crush washers, and a few missing hoses). Support from superchargers online was very good and was able to get everything in ~ 2 weeks time. I would highly recommend quality hose clamp pliers. I bought them specifically for this project and used them a lot. I too, like others suggested connected the coolant hoses to the back of the heat exchanger before placing on the manifold, this was a big help. Driving Impressions: I went from OFT stage 2 with EL headers and 3" cat back so the change was not as drastic as going from stock. I also am currently only using the Edelbrock CARB tune because winter is here in NY and only had a few days to drive before putting away for the winter. I plan to get the Delicious tune in the spring (I feel there is a lot more to be had with a better tune). Overall very happy with the new power band, when it cracks 4k RMPs it really goes. The best I can liken it to from past driving experiences is my stage 1+ Audi TT 1.8T. Highway on ramps are much more enjoyable now! Gas mileage hit was pretty big, I could consistently get 34 - 36 MPG highway, and now I'm averaging ~24 MPG. Also, I may be crazy but it seems the exhaust note is now a bit louder (and was already loud to begin with). Only other negative is the Edelbrock tune; it idles a little choppy and throttle response is mediocre, although I likely attribute this to my other exhaust mods. Overall very happy with the kit. It was a fun project and I picked it up for a great deal. Looking forward to the better tune in the spring! Attached Images

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CSG Mike Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: Orange County Posts: 14,531 Thanks: 8,920 Thanked 14,177 Times in 6,835 Posts Mentioned: 966 Post(s) Tagged: 14 Thread(s)	@Chris3007 Your car will drive FAR better when you get a proper tune dialed in to your mods. The CARB tune is literally only meant for otherwise stock powertrains, and won't run/feel right with other power mods!

12-03-2018, 01:22 PM	#2904
B T Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 15 BRZ, 2003 MR2, '70 Elky, 06 TBSS Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 510 Thanks: 194 Thanked 200 Times in 142 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Has anyone here done a complete tear down of the supercharger plenum? Anyone want pictures when I do mine? I think the butterfly valve surround on the anti surge return was manufactured incorrectly (confirmed for initial models by edelbrock but not mine) so I'm going to tear down and find out.

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GrabTheWheel Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Drives: 16' BRZ Location: California Posts: 362 Thanks: 76 Thanked 161 Times in 91 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know someone on here must know somebody who wants a barely used Edelbrock kit for Christmas (less than 1000 miles on the kit). If so please send me a PM.

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