First Spy Pics of Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 Production Test Mule! (Updated 5/17)

[traskw]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

What are you talking about it's my age? Do you even know my age? All you know is that I'm not under 26y/o.



Edit: just did an online quote for a 2011 G37 coupe and guess what, the most basic would run me $22/month and full coverage would run me $92/month.

You didn't say, and if you are over 30, than yes, it is your age. I really don't care how old you are, just saying.

Edit: At $92/month those are about right for over 30, though mine stickered for 45K and change, not the most basic G37. It's my daily driver, no flaming on weight please.

[Aki]

Why is this being called a mule--a mule means it has the underpinnings of the new platform/chassis, but with an existing body slapped over it. When the HSV was tested at the Nuburgring, it had a S2000 body tacked over it. That's a mule. This has Subie wheels, but otherwise it looks like a camoed production version of the FR-S. You can tell it's a production version because of the production-size rear-view mirrors, the absence of obnoxious/impractical ground effects. Doubtful it's the Suby version because Subaru's study has completely different character lines from the Toyota/Scion FR-S, and this looks really similar to FR-S concepts.

Also doubt there's going to be a completely separate Scion version from the Toyota. Scion cars are typically very similar to Toyota cars, with only a few small cosmetic differences. Such as the Scion xB vs Toyota BB, Scion/Toyota IQ, etc. Plus there isn't much of a reason to spend money retooling for separate Scion sheet metal when the Toyota version isn't going to be here anyways.

I actually like this camo version a lot. It's toned down, akin to the original concept more. The front wheel arch is more subtle, tail lights/headlights more subdued. The only downer is that I liked the character lines on the side of the MKIII concept more, but otherwise I think it's a winner.

As for the mini-window thing on the front window and the door-mounted mirrors, cars with a swept A-pillar typically have that in order to improve visibility. It's either that, or having the mirrors window-mounted with a giant black plastic cover there. Plus door-mounted mirrors are typically better with respect to drag.

[Dark]

For those who hope that Scion will look better than Toyota should see this:

Toyota Zelas:


Scion tC

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Dark

For those who hope that Scion will look better than Toyota should see this:

Toyota Zelas:


Scion tC

Front bumper difference?

[Aki]

Aside from that front lip, the Zelas is identical to the TC. Here's the Zelas w/o the lip, they're the same cars.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Front bumper difference?

I couldn't find the no lip one. My point is, they are exactly alike.

[Maxim]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

My friend, I totally agree w ya and a lot of ppl see that view... BUT just some ppl, just don't see it. They just think power is everything.



True, to certain point. Z06 ran 7:59 vs Exige S ran 8:25 in Nur. That's a big difference to sum ppl... or it could be small difference to sum ppl

Yeah sorry but the C5 (previous gen) Z06 ran a 7:40, and the new one is significantly faster than that......

There's a HUGE difference in lap times on the ring between the Z06 and Exige S....and that's because the ring is a very high speed track that favors Horsepower. The Exige is running times comparable to a 4200lb CTS-V because of that.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Dark

I couldn't find the no lip one. My point is, they are exactly alike.

I'm not arguing w ya. LOL I'm just bored and trying to see any difference

[Dark]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I'm not arguing w ya. LOL I'm just bored and trying to see any difference

Haha I know I know.
I like how they put Toyota badge on the tC. LOL

[SIRvive]

i could care less about how the production model looks as long as its aerodynamic and not full of chrome. Ill be making mine black on black anyways. As long as the handling is good and has the possibilities of tuning this vehicle in the next couple years ill gladly purchase it... Idc if its the Toyota version or Subaru version. Whichever has the better feeling of driving when i test drive it will get my $

[dalli]

I dont know if this was posted or w/e

I googled the plates on google (lol)

http://my.is/forums/f41/just-how-sig...t-mule-419952/

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Maxim

Yeah sorry but the C5 (previous gen) Z06 ran a 7:40, and the new one is significantly faster than that......

There's a HUGE difference in lap times on the ring between the Z06 and Exige S....and that's because the ring is a very high speed track that favors Horsepower. The Exige is running times comparable to a 4200lb CTS-V because of that.

Like I said, a big difference to sum ppl... or it could be small difference to sum ppl

My point is, Nur lap time, Tsukuba lap time, Laguna Seca lap time, it doesn't really matter to some ppl how fast Z06 ran. Some ppl aren't looking for time in the lap. Some ppl might be looking for time in auto-x, 1/4 mile, etc.

[Sea1monkey2]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Much better, but I think a tad optimistic.

I can pic up most of the lines, but the one that runs along the sde at the bottom I'm just not seeing and I think that lines makes all the difference as to whether the side look is more MkI/MkIII that MkII/Dull-ugly.

it is a little optimistic. i didnt adjust the gradients for each edge (didnt intend for gradients at all, easiest way to show the lines), so that has some overcompensation. also, i used some of the other angles to gather the lines. you can see the side curve better from the rear angles.

there is a much better one in graphics though

[OldSkoolToys]

I know why it looks ugly....

Those enkei's don't match it.

Someone chop some sweet sweet dish onto that sucker, and it'll be sex.