Cold Air Intake worth it?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

Paying $500 for an induction hose and intake were worth it to me, just to clean up the god awful mess that the stock airbox and induction hose with sound generator were.

Still haven't had a chance to dyno it to see if Mishimoto's claims of +16HP over stock are accurate. But I can feel a difference, that's for certain.

That is one solid reason to change to a different intake as it certainly does clean it up.
The claim of +/- 16 or so hp improvement is fairly standard to all the different intake suppliers but the independent dyno numbers I have ever seen never seem to come close to that (not without a tune to go along with the intake at any rate).
What they do actually help with is slightly improved throttle control and smooth out the 4000 dip a hair which can be a noticeable difference.

[Reaper]

Don't forget stickers add hp too.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

A tune on e85 alone will get you close to 200WHP.

Are you sure you want to stand by that statement 'factory header works pretty good', do you mean for emissions? Then I agree. From a performance standpoint....absolutely not. Dynos of a bone stock car adding just a CAI show minimal gains, bone stock and then adding a header shows a great increase in power and torque.

Reaper and others; may want to take a look here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31555

Pretty good compilation of dynos with various setups, focused around headers.

No where in that thread is the dyno doug at topspeed did of his factory manifold that was decatted that made more hp than all those did. Search his sn topspeed. He beat all of that with the factory header with the cat cut out of it and a stock airbox.

[Reaper]

But hey this community is slowly becoming all about looks and Internet engineering anyway.

[Timmy_Jones]

Originally Posted by Reaper

No where in that thread is the dyno doug at topspeed did of his factory manifold that was decatted that made more hp than all those did. Search his sn topspeed. He beat all of that with the factory header with the cat cut out of it and a stock airbox.

Do you mean this thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57270

Seems he didn't have just a decatted header...he had an e85 tune and other mods.

[CatDaddysBBQ]

CAI is pointless unless you are turbo. If you're just dying to dress it up under the hood, it's your money. If you want to do something that MAY be helping, get a 50 dollar (or less) drop in panel filter and call it a day.

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by CatDaddysBBQ

CAI is pointless unless you are turbo. If you're just dying to dress it up under the hood, it's your money. If you want to do something that MAY be helping, get a 50 dollar (or less) drop in panel filter and call it a day.

I pretty much agree with this statement with the exception of the GrimmSpeed intake.

There was so much R&D put into that unit and it has actually shown gains that are worth while of spending the money on. 15+whp with just the intake and tune isn't bad.

Otherwise, I would definitely just spend the $50ish and get a drop in filter and call it a day.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

I pretty much agree with this statement with the exception of the GrimmSpeed intake.

There was so much R&D put into that unit and it has actually shown gains that are worth while of spending the money on. 15+whp with just the intake and tune isn't bad.

Otherwise, I would definitely just spend the $50ish and get a drop in filter and call it a day.

Very important to understand!^^

[CatDaddysBBQ]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

I pretty much agree with this statement with the exception of the GrimmSpeed intake.

There was so much R&D put into that unit and it has actually shown gains that are worth while of spending the money on. 15+whp with just the intake and tune isn't bad.

Otherwise, I would definitely just spend the $50ish and get a drop in filter and call it a day.

Sooo, 14hp from the tune then?

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Very important to understand!^^

Obviously...

Originally Posted by CatDaddysBBQ

Sooo, 14hp from the tune then?

No. It was like 10whp with the intake and no tune. Then another 5-7 or something with the tune.

[Grateful Dave]

I've had the Greddy intake for over 2 years and I like it. Before I bought it, I already had the Greddy Evo3 exhaust. I tried the K&N for the hell of it while waiting for the Greddy intake on preorder. The K&N was a slight improvement over stock. The K&N oiled filter in hot climates is a recipe for MAF sensor contamination. I went through that with my Tacoma 4x4 and had to buy a new sensor. But the Greddy dry filter has been better than the K&N drop in. With the GReddy Intake, the car is defitinitely more responsive and sounds a whole lot better than stock or K&N with sound tube. I did remove the intake snorkel when I installed the intake. I connected the sound tube but I didn't drill a hole in the Greddy intake. I left the sound tube installed for future smog checks when I have to switch back to stock for inspection.
The Greddy intake matched with the Greddy Evo3 exhaust and the car breathes and responds way better than stock or with K&N drop in.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Obviously...

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I would never ever use the word "obviously here"!
Next thing you know some dude will be posting "got the intake you said and only got 10 hp out of it. I read that it should be 15. Should I take it back/get a different one/beat the crap out of the guy that sold it to me/is there something wrong with my car/etc"

[tennisfreak]

Originally Posted by miyoshi82

I'm planning to go stock with the TRD CAI. Thoughts? It is covered under the warranty since I'm going to have the Dealer install it?

I have the TRD intake. If you want it for performance then don't waste your time cause I don't believe it will give you any. If you want to clean up the bay, get rid of the damn sound tube, and stay with Toyota parts then I say go for it.


PS: I LOL at getting 10 WHP from the Grimspeed intake.

[Wise]

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave

I've had the Greddy intake for over 2 years and I like it. Before I bought it, I already had the Greddy Evo3 exhaust. I tried the K&N for the hell of it while waiting for the Greddy intake on preorder. The K&N was a slight improvement over stock. The K&N oiled filter in hot climates is a recipe for MAF sensor contamination. I went through that with my Tacoma 4x4 and had to buy a new sensor. But the Greddy dry filter has been better than the K&N drop in. With the GReddy Intake, the car is defitinitely more responsive and sounds a whole lot better than stock or K&N with sound tube. I did remove the intake snorkel when I installed the intake. I connected the sound tube but I didn't drill a hole in the Greddy intake. I left the sound tube installed for future smog checks when I have to switch back to stock for inspection.
The Greddy intake matched with the Greddy Evo3 exhaust and the car breathes and responds way better than stock or with K&N drop in.

Damn I thought Victoria Australia had bad EPA rules. You Cali guys can actually get fined for a sealed aftermarket intake?

I have the aFe Takeda (Same as the Greddy), but I drilled a hole for the soundtube. Also removed the snorkel, cos the intructions explicitly recommended it.