The "Pedal Dance" testing - Page 20 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ddeflyer · 09-04-2014, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dradernh

So, since you're already not getting any braking effect due to the ice mode, you can jump right off and ease right back on in one continuous movement, and if the condition causing ice mode in the first place is no longer present, you now have braking force. This is good to know. Thanks!

One of the tricky things with ice mode is that it doesn't completely kill your brake force, just severely reduces it. Because it only reduces it it can be mentally tricky to pump the brakes.

Ultramaroon · 10-02-2014, 06:21 PM

I propose it be renamed the "Brake Dance" because it involves more than just pedals but both are brakes.

juliog · 10-03-2014, 12:06 AM

Started using pedal dance last weekend at the track => TC light no longer blinking during my messy trail braking maneuvers..

sstfnv · 10-08-2014, 08:28 PM

I just started working on creating an arduino module with 2 relays that will do the "Pedal Dance" for me

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-QHpgRYCZU"]Scion FR-S / Subaru BRZ Driver's Aids Defeat Module - Testing - YouTube[/ame]

Next step is to hook it up to the brake pedal switch and e-brake switch.

If it works I will try to fake the temperature sensor readings for a couple of seconds so I don't have to wait for the car to warm up fully.

robot · 10-08-2014, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sstfnv

I just started working on creating an arduino module with 2 relays that will do the "Pedal Dance" for me

Next step is to hook it up to the brake pedal switch and e-brake switch.

If it works I will try to fake the temperature sensor readings for a couple of seconds so I don't have to wait for the car to warm up fully.

You could use obd II to read the temp and then run it or something. I still think it is one CAN message that is sent (like a code that tells it to go into this diagnostic mode) once you do the pedal sequence.

Does anyone working at a Toyota/Subaru dealership know if the car can be put in this mode with the diagnostics hardware at the dealership (as in without touching the pedals)?

uncivilised · 10-14-2014, 05:35 PM

i seem to have issues activating the pedal dance now. before i could it at will once the engine was at operating temps.

on a recent hill climb event where i did 15+ runs (with breaks in between) i found that the pedal dance activation got harder to do throughout the day. even going for a drive in between runs to make sure the car was warm didnt help.

would the ECU have a limit count on how many times you can do pedal dance in a day?

i do have a forester DIT turbo heat exchanger and i assume this may be keeping the car just below the pedal dance activation temperature.

troek · 10-14-2014, 06:03 PM

my guess is you did it so many times you got really good at and started doing it quicker and quicker. ive noticed it works best done calm and deliberately.

uncivilised · 10-14-2014, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by troek

my guess is you did it so many times you got really good at and started doing it quicker and quicker. ive noticed it works best done calm and deliberately.

on the day i thought the same thing, so i did try it slow and deliberately.

Ultramaroon · 10-14-2014, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by uncivilised

on the day i thought the same thing, so i did try it slow and deliberately.

I think it's the temp. I experimented a few times gradually sneaking up to operating temp. It refused to lock out until the temp gauge got right to that "normal" spot, whatever temp that is. Even shy by an RCH it's no-go.

troek · 10-14-2014, 09:47 PM

Ahh yeah, i see what u mean. Yeah i keep my car running or start it early enough to avoid that

normancw · 10-19-2014, 09:32 PM

I tried the pedal dance for the first time today - beat my fastest lap time at my local track by 1 second

Thanks @CSG Mike

CSG Mike · 10-19-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by normancw

I tried the pedal dance for the first time today - beat my fastest lap time at my local track by 1 second

Thanks @CSG Mike

Success!

Ultramaroon · 10-19-2014, 10:13 PM

...just sayin'

BatStig · 10-27-2014, 08:46 AM

Finally danced this weekend. It felt good! I'm not sure how much of it was the pedal dance and how much was me having an "ah ha" moment, but I shaved almost three seconds off my best lap time (1:50.5 - 1:47.6 at Canadian Tire Motorsports Park Driver Development Track)! What a damn good day! Thanks, @CSG Mike

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10-08-2014, 08:28 PM	#270
sstfnv Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: FR-S Location: Chicago Suburbs, IL Posts: 68 Thanks: 28 Thanked 31 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just started working on creating an arduino module with 2 relays that will do the "Pedal Dance" for me [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-QHpgRYCZU"]Scion FR-S / Subaru BRZ Driver's Aids Defeat Module - Testing - YouTube[/ame] Next step is to hook it up to the brake pedal switch and e-brake switch. If it works I will try to fake the temperature sensor readings for a couple of seconds so I don't have to wait for the car to warm up fully.

10-14-2014, 05:35 PM	#272
uncivilised Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 86 GT Location: australia Posts: 74 Thanks: 31 Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i seem to have issues activating the pedal dance now. before i could it at will once the engine was at operating temps. on a recent hill climb event where i did 15+ runs (with breaks in between) i found that the pedal dance activation got harder to do throughout the day. even going for a drive in between runs to make sure the car was warm didnt help. would the ECU have a limit count on how many times you can do pedal dance in a day? i do have a forester DIT turbo heat exchanger and i assume this may be keeping the car just below the pedal dance activation temperature.

10-19-2014, 09:32 PM	#277
normancw Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 128i Location: Canada Posts: 290 Thanks: 1,563 Thanked 627 Times in 283 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I tried the pedal dance for the first time today - beat my fastest lap time at my local track by 1 second Thanks @CSG Mike

10-27-2014, 08:46 AM	#280
BatStig Some say..... Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2007 Subaru Impreza 2.5i Location: Kitchener ON Posts: 483 Thanks: 810 Thanked 310 Times in 174 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Finally danced this weekend. It felt good! I'm not sure how much of it was the pedal dance and how much was me having an "ah ha" moment, but I shaved almost three seconds off my best lap time (1:50.5 - 1:47.6 at Canadian Tire Motorsports Park Driver Development Track)! What a damn good day! Thanks, @CSG Mike

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