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DIG1992 · 04-21-2013, 04:05 PM

I was looking around to see what was coming out next year and I notice the Audi A3 sedan looks like a winner. At first I was looking at the 06 A3 hatch but the sedan seems like it will get the 1.8-liter turbo I-4 producing 180 hp and 184 lb-ft of torque and it weights only 2756 lbs and if its priced about the same as the hatch that's out now it would be perfect.

dsgerbc · 04-21-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DIG1992

weights only 2756 lbs

Methinks that's not the quattro version.

dem00n · 04-21-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc

Methinks that's not the quattro version.

From what I've been reading, the one pictured is that weight, which has Quattro.

campy · 04-21-2013, 06:38 PM

I'm sure it's a fine car but the big problem with it is that then you're an audi driver

dsgerbc · 04-21-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dem00n

From what I've been reading, the one pictured is that weight, which has Quattro.

Read carefully then. It was never said that the weight is X lbs, it's stated as "shaves X lbs relative to current A3". Actual numbers like "2756lbs" are usually made up by journalists, taking the weight of he lightest of the current FWD A3 and subtracting the figure. Quattro is usually referenced as "quattro also available".

Euro A3 with tiny engine and FWD is about 2800lbs. No way in hell a bigger engine and AWD weigh under 200 pounds, so don't bet on it being sub-3000. The current AWD A3 weighs 3400+ lbs, my bet is that the new AWD A3 will be ~3200lbs at least.

JoeBoxer · 04-21-2013, 07:58 PM

I love this car too, S3 has almost 300hp and i think starts at 38k or so. I'll take the regular A3 with 2.0T, quattro, and S-Line exterior and interior.

Weight will be substantially lower than the current model, the 2800 pounds is the FWD with the base engine which is very lightweight.

Calum · 04-21-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

I love this car too, S3 has almost 300hp and i think starts at 38k or so. I'll take the regular A3 with 2.0T, quattro, and S-Line exterior and interior.

Weight will be substantially lower than the current model, the 2800 pounds is the FWD with the base engine which is very lightweight.

FUCK I HATE my country sometimes. I just priced out the VERY bottom of the line A3, it's 42K with taxes.

fatoni · 04-21-2013, 08:15 PM

why not just get a gti and save five figures?

Chewie4299 · 04-21-2013, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum

FUCK I HATE my country sometimes. I just priced out the VERY bottom of the line A3, it's 42K with taxes.

Wow

powerofze · 04-21-2013, 08:24 PM

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FUCK I HATE my country sometimes. I just priced out the VERY bottom of the line A3, it's 42K with taxes.

Fuck Canada when it comes to vehicles. Seriously I get mad everytime I price out any car

mashal · 04-21-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by powerofze

Fuck Canada when it comes to vehicles. Seriously I get mad everytime I price out any car

Word

Calum · 04-21-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

why not just get a gti and save five figures?

This.

dsgerbc · 04-21-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by powerofze

Fuck Canada when it comes to vehicles. Seriously I get mad everytime I price out any car

Get a TN visa and work down south. Just don't complain when you get a huge hospital bill (after insurance's contribution) far exceeding the difference in car prices.

dsgerbc · 04-21-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

I love this car too, S3 has almost 300hp and i think starts at 38k or so.

Knowing Audi, the $38k S3 will probably have hand-cranked windows or something else making sure nobody actually buys it. I don't expect a livable S3 to cost under $42-$43k before taxes.

04-21-2013, 04:05 PM	#1
DIG1992 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Drives: 2002 Acura TL Location: West Caldwell Posts: 432 Thanks: 74 Thanked 191 Times in 76 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The perfect small sedan I was looking around to see what was coming out next year and I notice the Audi A3 sedan looks like a winner. At first I was looking at the 06 A3 hatch but the sedan seems like it will get the 1.8-liter turbo I-4 producing 180 hp and 184 lb-ft of torque and it weights only 2756 lbs and if its priced about the same as the hatch that's out now it would be perfect. Attached Images

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