Rumors are Audi R4 will be a FR-S competitor - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

zigzagz94 · 06-18-2010, 08:15 PM

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/18/r...-below-the-tt/

"Rumors have floating around for years that Audi has been planning to develop a small entry-level, mid-engine sports car, and Auto Motor und Sport is now claiming the so-called R4 will debut in 2013. The R4 is expected to be based on Audi's second e-tron concept that debuted at the Detroit Auto Show last January although it will use internal combustion power instead of the electric drive of the concept.

The R4 is expected to weigh in at a comparatively modest 2,500 pounds and offer a choice of gas or diesel inline-four engines. Gasoline propulsion would come from a 180 horsepower 1.4-liter TSI unit while the high-mileage option would be the 170 horsepower version of the 2.0-liter TDI used in the TT and the Golf GTD. The R4 is also expected to be priced well below the TT with a base of about €22,000 (about $27,000)."

Sleeprz posted this info earlier in the mustang thread but it deserves to be here in the other vehicles section of the forum.

If the FR-S does indeed get postponed until 2013 and gets saddled with some hybrid nonsense then this is my back up choice for a DD. 2500lbs, Mid engined, RWD, and a 180hp 1.4l turbo sounds very tasty.

***when I say FR-S competitor I'm assuming the turbo G Sport FR-S or top of the line model would cost around $27,000 also

CyberFormula · 06-18-2010, 10:47 PM

knowing Audi ..it will under perform, but they are cars that make you feel good in a different way.

If ft86 is postponed..I'll go for the "next" GTR or BMW "M1".

Siriusly.Andrew · 06-18-2010, 11:09 PM

yeah the only thing I don't like about that is $27,000. I know its an Audi and all, but the specs don't look like a 27,000 $ car to me.

OneJoeZee · 06-19-2010, 12:28 AM

No interest in audi for me.

ichitaka05 · 06-19-2010, 02:33 AM

Like the design and info... but 2 thing bugs me.

1. RWD or AWD? If they gonna do AWD (I haven't see FR Audi for long time), I gonna wait for Subie Coupe ver and willing to spent extra $$$ for it. Get more Power and performance out of Subie than this Audi R4 ever will (in stock).
2. Audi car > $27k. Even cheapest Audi current have is... Audi A3 w $27,300-ish without any options (correct me if I'm wrong on that price tag, that's just off my memory). Some how I see R4 as lil brother of TT & TT is $38k-ish. It's no way they gonna drop $11k lower than TT for R4.

Franisco · 06-19-2010, 04:21 AM

If it starts at $23-25, is RWD, and has that 5-cylinder from the new TT-RS sign me up.

70NYD · 06-19-2010, 06:38 AM

it has a 1.4T from what i read
although r4 with 4 cyls would make more sence (4 is half of 8, r8 has a v10 blah blah)

Abflug · 06-19-2010, 06:46 PM

I don´t think audi will underperform

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

2. Audi car > $27k. Even cheapest Audi current have is... Audi A3 w $27,300-ish without any options (correct me if I'm wrong on that price tag, that's just off my memory). Some how I see R4 as lil brother of TT & TT is $38k-ish. It's no way they gonna drop $11k lower than TT for R4.

audi actually realeased the A1 in Germany with a 1,4 TFSI 90 kw as a entry engine with 6 Speed or S tronic starting at 19.900 € but FF maybe they´re going to release a S version also sportback http://static.pagenstecher.de/upload...portback-8.jpg (just a 2008 concept) - would be interesting!

ichitaka05 · 06-19-2010, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TomGT

audi actually realeased the A1 in Germany with a 1,4 TFSI 90 kw as a entry engine with 6 Speed or S tronic starting at 19.900 € but FF maybe they´re going to release a S version also sportback http://static.pagenstecher.de/upload...portback-8.jpg (just a 2008 concept) - would be interesting!

Yeah, Euro & Asia get all the good car, while US get screwed.

You said €19.900... yeah if you convert it to US it's $24,600... & I highly doubt it gonna keep it around that price. They gonna raise it to $26k~$28k, just cuz it's Audi.

Abflug · 06-20-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Yeah, Euro & Asia get all the good car, while US get screwed.

You said €19.900... yeah if you convert it to US it's $24,600... & I highly doubt it gonna keep it around that price. They gonna raise it to $26k~$28k, just cuz it's Audi.

.. so if you talking like that I wonder why so many people in Germany import so many vehicles from the states because of that they are so cheap don´t mention what they are import from jp...

ichitaka05 · 06-20-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TomGT

.. so if you talking like that I wonder why so many people in Germany import so many vehicles from the states because of that they are so cheap don´t mention what they are import from jp...

I guess, grass is greener on other side of the fence.

Abflug · 06-21-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I guess, grass is greener on other side of the fence.

it´s always like that

70NYD · 06-22-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I guess, grass is greener on other side of the fence.

man that quote is exactly why the beauty and tuner industry survives (i said those two cus for guys its cars and for girls its hair/makeup, this is how i allways relate prices to my gf anyway lol) girl has short hair, they get extensions, they have curly hair they straighten it, they have blond hair they die it, they have straight hair they perm it etc... guy has car with 15in wheels he gets 16s, has a blue car wants a red car, has a black car wants to paint it white, just spent 500 for a new stereo, wants to spend another 1G to get the same stereo with gps.. spent 5G on a leather retrim, wants to get new buckets and then retrim them to.. stuff like that.. grass is allways greener, people are never happy with what they have.. well most ppl

ichitaka05 · 06-22-2010, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 70NYD

man that quote is exactly why the beauty and tuner industry survives (i said those two cus for guys its cars and for girls its hair/makeup, this is how i allways relate prices to my gf anyway lol) girl has short hair, they get extensions, they have curly hair they straighten it, they have blond hair they die it, they have straight hair they perm it etc... guy has car with 15in wheels he gets 16s, has a blue car wants a red car, has a black car wants to paint it white, just spent 500 for a new stereo, wants to spend another 1G to get the same stereo with gps.. spent 5G on a leather retrim, wants to get new buckets and then retrim them to.. stuff like that.. grass is allways greener, people are never happy with what they have.. well most ppl

If someone give me Orido's Supra, I'll be the happiest person & will not change anything on that car.

06-18-2010, 08:15 PM	#1
zigzagz94 BRZerhood Lurker #13 Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 15 DGM BRZ Premium Location: charon's ferry Posts: 892 Thanks: 377 Thanked 225 Times in 128 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Rumors are Audi R4 will be a FR-S competitor http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/18/r...-below-the-tt/ "Rumors have floating around for years that Audi has been planning to develop a small entry-level, mid-engine sports car, and Auto Motor und Sport is now claiming the so-called R4 will debut in 2013. The R4 is expected to be based on Audi's second e-tron concept that debuted at the Detroit Auto Show last January although it will use internal combustion power instead of the electric drive of the concept. The R4 is expected to weigh in at a comparatively modest 2,500 pounds and offer a choice of gas or diesel inline-four engines. Gasoline propulsion would come from a 180 horsepower 1.4-liter TSI unit while the high-mileage option would be the 170 horsepower version of the 2.0-liter TDI used in the TT and the Golf GTD. The R4 is also expected to be priced well below the TT with a base of about €22,000 (about $27,000)." Sleeprz posted this info earlier in the mustang thread but it deserves to be here in the other vehicles section of the forum. If the FR-S does indeed get postponed until 2013 and gets saddled with some hybrid nonsense then this is my back up choice for a DD. 2500lbs, Mid engined, RWD, and a 180hp 1.4l turbo sounds very tasty. **when I say FR-S competitor I'm assuming the turbo G Sport FR-S or top of the line model would cost around $27,000 also Last edited by zigzagz94; 06-18-2010 at 08:55 PM.*

06-19-2010, 12:28 AM	#4
OneJoeZee Ore wa Gundamu da Join Date: Apr 2010 Drives: 1989 Toyota MR2 Location: (ಠ__ಠ) Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No interest in audi for me. __________________

06-19-2010, 02:33 AM	#5
ichitaka05 Site Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: ichi 86 Project Location: Middle of No where Posts: 20,966 Thanks: 7,664 Thanked 19,052 Times in 8,327 Posts Mentioned: 677 Post(s) Tagged: 27 Thread(s)	Like the design and info... but 2 thing bugs me. 1. RWD or AWD? If they gonna do AWD (I haven't see FR Audi for long time), I gonna wait for Subie Coupe ver and willing to spent extra $$$ for it. Get more Power and performance out of Subie than this Audi R4 ever will (in stock). 2. Audi car > $27k. Even cheapest Audi current have is... Audi A3 w $27,300-ish without any options (correct me if I'm wrong on that price tag, that's just off my memory). Some how I see R4 as lil brother of TT & TT is $38k-ish. It's no way they gonna drop $11k lower than TT for R4. __________________

06-19-2010, 06:38 AM	#7
70NYD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Drives: RX8 S1 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 49 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	it has a 1.4T from what i read although r4 with 4 cyls would make more sence (4 is half of 8, r8 has a v10 blah blah) __________________

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