Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

So he drilled and thread tapped the snout with it still on, got metal

shavings inside and now doesn’t have a supercharger anymore?



You can take snout off with leaving SC on manifold/installed to engine. Thread tap it and reinstall. Just sounds like a pain to do in order to fix something that may not even need fixing. Would be just a potential safety precaution.

Here is what he said. He did the install on my car. I trust him. He knows what he is doing

Combination of a really sharp drill bit that removes large chunks at a time instead of small shavings, and grease to trap it all. No pilot hole

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[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Here is what he said. He did the install on my car. I trust him. He knows what he is doing

Combination of a really sharp drill bit that removes large chunks at a time instead of small shavings, and grease to trap it all. No pilot hole

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That would be 10times easier, but way more risky. He’d still need a tap to thread it though. Don’t see how you could avoid small shavings with that.
I have a 1/8npt tap from tapping map plate and it was shave city.

[kev0]

Would you guys ourchase the nonintercooled kit with 20k miles on it for $1500? How reliable would my engine be with this kit? More reliable than others since This kit is only 5 psi, right?

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by kev0

Would you guys ourchase the nonintercooled kit with 20k miles on it for $1500? How reliable would my engine be with this kit? More reliable than others since This kit is only 5 psi, right?

Kit is generally pretty reliable even with smaller pulleys. Nonintercooled kit is only really recommended if you have E85 or WMI otherwise lots of heatsoak. But I believe the MAP sensor will actually read accurately without the intercooler heatsink causing turbulence issues.
I think 80mm pulley is about 5psi, 75mm 9psi 72.5 10.5psi 70mm 12psi
For 1500$ it’s pretty cheap. Might need a rebuild, could be why they selling so cheap though.

[kev0]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Kit is generally pretty reliable even with smaller pulleys. Nonintercooled kit is only really recommended if you have E85 or WMI otherwise lots of heatsoak. But I believe the MAP sensor will actually read accurately without the intercooler heatsink causing turbulence issues.
I think 80mm pulley is about 5psi, 75mm 9psi 72.5 10.5psi 70mm 12psi
For 1500$ it’s pretty cheap. Might need a rebuild, could be why they selling so cheap though.

Darn, okay. I wasn't planning on going E85. Guess I'll have to skip this kit and look for an intercooled one. Thanks a lot, man!

[ajcarson11]

Originally Posted by kev0

Would you guys ourchase the nonintercooled kit with 20k miles on it for $1500? How reliable would my engine be with this kit? More reliable than others since This kit is only 5 psi, right?

I suppose I can't chime in, because it's my kit that you were looking to buy

I do agree with E85 -- I enjoy the kit a LOT more with E85 -- the pull is much stronger.

And the kit is in great shape (as far as I can tell -- No issues, and it doesn't burn through much oil) -- I just would like to make it an easy sale and I figured a nice price would help move it along.

[kev0]

Originally Posted by ajcarson11

I suppose I can't chime in, because it's my kit that you were looking to buy

I do agree with E85 -- I enjoy the kit a LOT more with E85 -- the pull is much stronger.

And the kit is in great shape (as far as I can tell -- No issues, and it doesn't burn through much oil) -- I just would like to make it an easy sale and I figured a nice price would help move it along.

Haha, didn't expect to see you here!! Now i'm interested again. A kit rebuild is only $700 anyways, if something is wrong with it. I just know for a fact that I won't be running E85 on my car. I'm not even worried about heat soaking, since I don't drive like a maniac. I'm just worried about my stock motor being blown

[ajcarson11]

Originally Posted by kev0

Haha, didn't expect to see you here!! Now i'm interested again. A kit rebuild is only $700 anyways, if something is wrong with it. I just know for a fact that I won't be running E85 on my car. I'm not even worried about heat soaking, since I don't drive like a maniac. I'm just worried about my stock motor being blown

There are never any guarantees with stock motors, but I can tell you that most of your risk lies in the tune. You are much safer with a tuner who understands this car and this kit -- I would go with Moto East or Delicious Tuning personally, for that reason alone. I've been very happy with my tune from Moto-East -- Mike really knows his stuff. They do great work in-house, and even his E-tune is used by hundreds of other Sprintex 210 drivers (it is what I have been using).

This kit doesn't make a boat-load of power, especially in comparison to other offerings out there -- Ultimately this reduces risk to your motor, clutch, etc. It is one of the main reasons I went with this setup -- I haven't had to worry about my engine being strained to the max by other kits, and I haven't had to upgrade fuel pump or injectors (which just add complications).

With all of that being said, if you're looking for a modest increase in power (add some fun) and a lot of cool/exciting whine (adds big fun!) then you'll like this kit. If you're interested in street racing it may be disappointing. The cost vs performance, the low-end torque for daily driving, and the whine are what made this kit stand out for me.

If you have E85 in the area you might do a bit of thinking on that -- A flexfuel kit would let you run any combination of E85 and normal gas (in case you have to fill up with normal fuel at times where E85 isn't available). The transition between fuels is seamless, and E85 is quite a bit cheaper (at least here in Indiana... $2.09 for E85 vs $3.50 for 93). With E85 the kit really wakes things up.

It's all about what you are looking for!

[ls1ac]

I have one of the first 210's, with no intercooler. Have been using it for a DD and have tracked it quit a few times. Yes on a hot day it will heat soak, but that just means loss of power. If driving hard in hot weather I would recommend an oil cooler, I do not have one and watch oil temps carefully and use a good synthetic oil.
Delicious tuning has been very good.
It is not very fast but is much more fun than stock.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by kev0

Haha, didn't expect to see you here!! Now i'm interested again. A kit rebuild is only $700 anyways, if something is wrong with it. I just know for a fact that I won't be running E85 on my car. I'm not even worried about heat soaking, since I don't drive like a maniac. I'm just worried about my stock motor being blown

Assuming you have a proper install and a good tune. It’s pretty unlikely the sprintex kit will be the cause of your engine blowing, especially on the 80-75mm pulley. But nothing is guaranteed.
The heatsoak isn’t necessarily dangerous. But after 1-2 hard high speed pulls you’re power will drop off quick and pull about the same as an NA with full bolt ons. For a pure DD it’s not the end of the world. You may be able to reach out to some vendors and find a intercooler upgrade kit. Or could get a WMI setup.
Most people who buy used send it out to Jon bond for inspection/rebuild and then it should be pretty much good as new.

[kev0]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Assuming you have a proper install and a good tune. It’s pretty unlikely the sprintex kit will be the cause of your engine blowing, especially on the 80-75mm pulley. But nothing is guaranteed.
The heatsoak isn’t necessarily dangerous. But after 1-2 hard high speed pulls you’re power will drop off quick and pull about the same as an NA with full bolt ons. For a pure DD it’s not the end of the world. You may be able to reach out to some vendors and find a intercooler upgrade kit. Or could get a WMI setup.
Most people who buy used send it out to Jon bond for inspection/rebuild and then it should be pretty much good as new.

Very informational. Thanks. Would a hood with a hood scoop help with the heat soak? Not expecting it to work as good as an intercooler, but I should get a hood scoop to be safe, right?

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by kev0

Very informational. Thanks. Would a hood with a hood scoop help with the heat soak? Not expecting it to work as good as an intercooler, but I should get a hood scoop to be safe, right?

Couldn’t hurt. I’m sure it will help a little bit. Could also try a Perrin CAI and some gold reflective heat tape and wrap the sprintex intake pipe and the Perrin CAI with that. Those with the hood vent/scoop would help prolong the inevitable heat soak.

What hood scoop are you thinking about?

[kev0]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Couldn’t hurt. I’m sure it will help a little bit. Could also try a Perrin CAI and some gold reflective heat tape and wrap the sprintex intake pipe and the Perrin CAI with that. Those with the hood vent/scoop would help prolong the inevitable heat soak.

What hood scoop are you thinking about?

Looking at a Seibon FA-Style Hood

Thanks again for your assistance.

[sqd]

Speaking of hoods, for anyone curious, the 210 works fine with the Varis Arising II version 2 hood that also has the NACA-duct. It diverts air to the back of the charger as well, should absolutely help with temps.