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Old 03-28-2019, 06:49 PM   #547
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According to the Center for Auto Safety, a recall issued last fall by Toyota Motor Corp. and Subaru Motor Corp. to address a valve spring issue that caused the engine to stall may not have cleared the cars back to 100-per-cent health.
Tales of stalling and engine knocking are still allegedly being reported.
The automakers recalled 411,000 vehicles globally, including 140,249 from Subaru and 80,000 from Toyota in the U.S.
Canadian numbers haven’t been made available for Toyota, but 19,164 Subarus were recalled nationally.
The Washington D.C.-based non-profit consumer advocacy group told Automotive News it believes the repair itself is busted and suggests the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) might want to take a look-see for themselves.
All the more of a reason for those with failure after the recall to file a compliant with NHTSA. Failure after the recall is a safety issue since it can result in sudden power loss and an accident. The more reports to NHTSA the better chance something will happen in the owners favor.
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Old 03-28-2019, 07:32 PM   #548
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All the more of a reason for those with failure after the recall to file a compliant with NHTSA. Failure after the recall is a safety issue since it can result in sudden power loss and an accident. The more reports to NHTSA the better chance something will happen in the owners favor.
Still don't really understand what you think they would do. They will tell them to do the job right. They will not tell them to replace any engines failed due to oil starvation.
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The Dealership ship has told me they will stand behind their work and are taking responsibility. They have ordered a new crank, connecting rods, and bearings. Will take 7 days to ship from California. They are doing the rebuild of my motors which has me worried since they caused this.

The problem I see with this, is that it is highly unlikely that a lubrication failure JUST damaged the main bearings/con rods/crank. The cams and cam journals in the head are likely damaged as well.

I would feel much, much better if a new short or long block was being installed. Honestly, by the time they factor in their technician's labour, I can't see what they are doing being that much cheaper than the cost of a short block ??


Hope it all works out - but this may be worth mentioning.
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Old 03-28-2019, 09:55 PM   #550
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The problem I see with this, is that it is highly unlikely that a lubrication failure JUST damaged the main bearings/con rods/crank. The cams and cam journals in the head are likely damaged as well.

I would feel much, much better if a new short or long block was being installed. Honestly, by the time they factor in their technician's labour, I can't see what they are doing being that much cheaper than the cost of a short block ??


Hope it all works out - but this may be worth mentioning.
Might be a supply issue as well? We get engines as fairly stripped long blocks or complete minus accessories, just depends on which engine it is.

And I agree, not sure I want the guy who just built my engine that failed to build me another engine, with 80% used parts.
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Old 03-28-2019, 10:42 PM   #551
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I totally agree with both posts above. If they can’t even handle FIPG then no way would I want them rebuilding the bottom end from scratch. I got my short block for $1800 and you know they will pay less than I did. I haven’t priced out rods, crank and all new bearings but I can’t believe that much would be saved. In fact I bet it would cost more not even factoring the extra labor.

I wouldn’t stress too much about damaged cams though. I spun #3 but the cams looked flawless. It’s worth asking about though.
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I'm literally eating popcorn while reading this.
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I totally agree with both posts above. If they can’t even handle FIPG then no way would I want them rebuilding the bottom end from scratch. I got my short block for $1800 and you know they will pay less than I did. I haven’t priced out rods, crank and all new bearings but I can’t believe that much would be saved. In fact I bet it would cost more not even factoring the extra labor.

I wouldn’t stress too much about damaged cams though. I spun #3 but the cams looked flawless. It’s worth asking about though.
I read that they short blocks are all on back order somewhere. Can't imagine how they can rebuild a short block for near parts cost for a new one. Then again, they probably are not sending block to machine shop.
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Im shit out of luck with a rental going on 6 weeks and 2 different dealers
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Im shit out of luck with a rental going on 6 weeks and 2 different dealers
Best take advantage of that rental and drive to Cali or something!
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They're also trying to rebuild mine. The story I keep getting is that they're finding parts missing and need to keep ordering, and whatever they order is on backorder. If my engine blows again after this, I'm just buying an IAG built short lock and forgetting about it. They gave me a Tacoma off road edition TRD rental. Guess they want to be sure the mileage costs me! I'm averaging 18mpg on the interstate haha.
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They're also trying to rebuild mine. The story I keep getting is that they're finding parts missing and need to keep ordering, and whatever they order is on backorder. If my engine blows again after this, I'm just buying an IAG built short lock and forgetting about it. They gave me a Tacoma off road edition TRD rental. Guess they want to be sure the mileage costs me! I'm averaging 18mpg on the interstate haha.
Have you gone off-roading yet? Need to do any house projects that require a bed? ahahah
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Have you gone off-roading yet? Need to do any house projects that require a bed? ahahah
Oh trust me, I'm trying to find something. My wife already commented that it'd be a great time for me to finish drywalling the basement..
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I guess people were putting the springs in upside down? Haven't seen this linked to any of the recall documents, seems pertinent though.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...54424-9999.pdf
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I'd be amazed if they put them in upside down.
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