Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread - Page 8 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SloS14 · 06-26-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesm

putting a lipo in your engine bay is an awesome way to start a bonfire.

point taken. what about LiFePO4?

fenton · 06-26-2013, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tahoward

Really want to see someone pair up some electric motors on that turbo's compressor wheel. Looks like it only reaches 37,000 rpm.

Looking at the comp map here:
http://www.phantomsuperchargers.com/fts-tq25024v.html

50,000 rpms would be about 650-700 cfm @ around 7psi sea level... 7psi on the low end would be crazy fun...

Problem is the DC motor doesnt last as long.

Believe me we are considering options to raise it but we want to be careful.

The amount that i am boosting now the charge doesnt heat up at all.

nonicname · 06-26-2013, 01:45 PM

This is amazing! BABY steps! keep it like that.
I'm super excited about this.

fenton · 06-26-2013, 02:14 PM

Alright here is a little teaser for you guys. Tried to do a quick acceleration pull, please note where i hit the throttle, right at the beginning of the torque dip.

My car is going to be a little slower than most of your because i am at 3500+ feet, with stage 1 only i made 168hp with corrections.

Top end might not be too much different, im thinking in current spec we are looking at about 20 hp up top.

Trust me.... Tonnes more to come as we continue:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoyvoSI8K84"]Frs brz electric supercharger 0 - 60 - YouTube[/ame]

tahoward · 06-26-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fenton

Problem is the DC motor doesnt last as long.

Believe me we are considering options to raise it but we want to be careful.

The amount that i am boosting now the charge doesnt heat up at all.

Is it the DC motor that doesn't last or the charge? For street use your experience is you are unable to deplete the charge going WOT. The site shows worst case scenario a charge lasts 1 minute in 50C. My opinion is anything more than 15-20 seconds is plenty for street use. At that point what I really care about is the duration of time taken to recharge.

fenton · 06-26-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tahoward

Is it the DC motor that doesn't last or the charge? For street use your experience is you are unable to deplete the charge going WOT. The site shows worst case scenario a charge lasts 1 minute in 50C weather. My opinion is anything more than 15-20 seconds is plenty for street use. At that point what I really care about is the duration of time taken to recharge.

The DC motor is under additional stress as well at that point. The engineer behind this says it has been a 3 years process picking different motor's and blowers until landing on these two compressors. We have a couple things we can do to make it more efficient yet and we will entertain those ideas soon.

Cant wait for the dyno!

SloS14 · 06-26-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fenton

Alright here is a little teaser for you guys.

Now I'm more interested. Thanks for the vid.

Trashed675 · 06-26-2013, 02:32 PM

I'm soooo in for this.
30min install
mild performance boost
theoretically no loss in mpg

Can't wait for dyno numbers do come in and for a price to be announced. If its under $1500 you mind as well sign me up.

SloS14 · 06-26-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trashed675

Can't wait for dyno numbers do come in and for a price to be announced. If its under $1500 you mind as well sign me up.

I would be more interested under $1000, personally.

NYNOMAD · 06-26-2013, 02:49 PM

Really interested - subscribed

nonicname · 06-26-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SloS14

I would be more interested under $1000, personally.

This!

Trashed675 · 06-26-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SloS14

I would be more interested under $1000, personally.

I was aiming high so that i had a better chance at being pleasantly surprised when it comes out cheaper, rather then being disappointed it costs so much.

Bu-Tang · 06-26-2013, 03:12 PM

Realistically I would say All in with tune probably $2000-2200, based on numbers I was given when speaking with them about this product. It was about $1800 for the product alone, that's what I am assuming as retail......

fenton · 06-26-2013, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bu-Tang

Realistically I would say All in with tune probably $2000-2200, based on numbers I was given when speaking with them about this product. It was about $1800 for the product alone, that's what I am assuming as retail......

Im going to leave the pricing to them once this is finished development. Based on what i was talking to him about it dont think people will be disappointed

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nonicname Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: it has 4 wheels and a motor Location: Planet Earth Posts: 479 Thanks: 69 Thanked 173 Times in 93 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is amazing! BABY steps! keep it like that. I'm super excited about this.

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fenton Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Calgary Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 526 Thanked 1,614 Times in 726 Posts Mentioned: 120 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Alright here is a little teaser for you guys. Tried to do a quick acceleration pull, please note where i hit the throttle, right at the beginning of the torque dip. My car is going to be a little slower than most of your because i am at 3500+ feet, with stage 1 only i made 168hp with corrections. Top end might not be too much different, im thinking in current spec we are looking at about 20 hp up top. Trust me.... Tonnes more to come as we continue: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoyvoSI8K84"]Frs brz electric supercharger 0 - 60 - YouTube[/ame]

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NYNOMAD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: BRZ WRB LTD MAN Location: NY Posts: 108 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Really interested - subscribed

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Bu-Tang Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, Nissan Pathfinder Location: Calgary AB, Canada Posts: 404 Thanks: 189 Thanked 212 Times in 96 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Realistically I would say All in with tune probably $2000-2200, based on numbers I was given when speaking with them about this product. It was about $1800 for the product alone, that's what I am assuming as retail......

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