Grippier than stock but not fun killing?[Tires] - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

jdemm · 12-29-2019, 06:36 PM

Hey All,
[asked this on Reddit but wanted your opinions]

Is there a tire that is grippier than the primacies but does not kill all the fun on an NA build? I'm looking for 225 x 45 x 17 on a 17x8 wheel.

Background:
The stock tires scared me driving in canyons but were really fun around town.
I went to 225x17 indy500s, gave me more grip but the rear tires will not budge.

My power mods are UEL + tune.

DarkPira7e · 12-29-2019, 06:47 PM

Probably any 300+ treadwear tire will be where you want. I like the Hankook ventus v2 concept2 all seasons for an all around tire for low power level cars

Dorkhedeos · 12-29-2019, 08:34 PM

I would suggest trying GT radial SX2 in 215 or 225 width. At about $80 a tire you can't go wrong with them.

Clutch Dog · 12-29-2019, 08:48 PM

firehawk indy's too much grip?...

stop being a wuss and commit to the gas

I personally always enjoyed dailying on bfg sport comp a/s (their sport comp 2 is a summer) they offered good grip and easy to manipulate. they are inline with the cooper RS3-G1 and i think general AS-05?

i also liked the primacy's for their flingability, *shrugs* its a nice change from the super 200's im normally on

HaXx · 12-30-2019, 12:24 AM

I'm on the bfg sport comp 2 summers in 225 right now. Thumbs up

scuzzy · 12-30-2019, 10:38 AM

i'm on the Indy 500's 225x17x45 and have no problem kicking the back end out. No mods.

finch1750 · 12-30-2019, 11:51 AM

Sounds like you should worry more about fixing the nut behind the wheel than what tire you need.

225 indy 500 is not too much tire

weederr33 · 12-30-2019, 11:51 AM

I also have the bfg sport comp 2 in 225 and love them. The grip is just right!

Clutch Dog · 12-30-2019, 01:58 PM

I was torn between the BFG sport comp2 and the indy 500's but tirerack made the deciding factor with pricing deals haha

Ultramaroon · 12-30-2019, 04:14 PM

OP, if the stock configuration is doing anything to scare you, you're doing it wrong. More grip will only mask poor habits. First learn not to overdrive the platform. Leave the nannies engaged and practice. Consider any intervention to be a dope slap. VSC is an excellent training aid.

Spuds · 12-30-2019, 05:55 PM

I like the Advan v105s I ran this summer. They were pretty cheap in stock size.

Actually, I've found the BFG gforce comp-2 AS that I have for "winter" to be quite responsive and predictable in both wet and dry. Definitely more grip than stock, but still playful. Pretty heavy though as I recall...

Breadman · 12-30-2019, 06:50 PM

i ran 255/40/17 indy500s last year and definitely slide the back out. put it in track mode or long push TC

finch1750 · 12-30-2019, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breadman

i ran 255/40/17 indy500s last year and definitely slide the back out. put it in track mode or long push TC

Ill just add to do it in a safe environment.

There are plenty of groups that do skid pad days like Speed SF. If you join the Norcal86 - Bay Area FB you can find more options for drifting and stuff as well to learn at

soundman98 · 12-30-2019, 08:57 PM

i run BFG gforce comp-2 AS's year round. i'm quite happy with them, as they offer slightly more grip than stock, and happily offer less noise near, at, or past grip unlike the stock tires.

imo, they are almost as predictable as the stock tires, which was the main thing i loved about the oem tires. the oem tires enhanced the cars attributes. the sport comps do trade some of that feeling for grip, but any grippier tire is going to do that.

12-29-2019, 06:36 PM	#1
jdemm Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Drives: Blue 2014 FRS Limited Location: San Jose CA Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Grippier than stock but not fun killing?[Tires] Hey All, [asked this on Reddit but wanted your opinions] Is there a tire that is grippier than the primacies but does not kill all the fun on an NA build? I'm looking for 225 x 45 x 17 on a 17x8 wheel. Background: The stock tires scared me driving in canyons but were really fun around town. I went to 225x17 indy500s, gave me more grip but the rear tires will not budge. My power mods are UEL + tune.

12-30-2019, 11:51 AM	#7
finch1750 Undisputed El Presidente Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Zenki 37J ZN6 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 11,571 Thanks: 9,382 Thanked 9,397 Times in 5,261 Posts Mentioned: 374 Post(s) Tagged: 33 Thread(s)	Sounds like you should worry more about fixing the nut behind the wheel than what tire you need. 225 indy 500 is not too much tire __________________ "Just like how a strut bar somehow enables you to corner 20MPH faster around a cloverleaf on-ramp, when the reality is, you can do it already but you just don't have to balls to do it." - CSG David Last edited by finch1750; 01-11-2020 at 09:15 PM.

12-30-2019, 11:51 AM	#8
weederr33 Airborne at your service Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 6,325 Thanks: 4,528 Thanked 5,586 Times in 2,928 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I also have the bfg sport comp 2 in 225 and love them. The grip is just right! __________________ Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135 MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT

12-30-2019, 04:14 PM	#10
Ultramaroon 義理チョコ Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: a 13 e8h frs Location: vantucky, wa Posts: 31,864 Thanks: 52,120 Thanked 36,513 Times in 18,917 Posts Mentioned: 1106 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	OP, if the stock configuration is doing anything to scare you, you're doing it wrong. More grip will only mask poor habits. First learn not to overdrive the platform. Leave the nannies engaged and practice. Consider any intervention to be a dope slap. VSC is an excellent training aid. __________________ service manuals

12-30-2019, 08:57 PM	#14
soundman98 ProCrastinationConsultant Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: '14 Ranger, '18 Tacoma 4Dr LB Location: chicago-ish Posts: 11,330 Thanks: 35,240 Thanked 13,673 Times in 6,781 Posts Mentioned: 98 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i run BFG gforce comp-2 AS's year round. i'm quite happy with them, as they offer slightly more grip than stock, and happily offer less noise near, at, or past grip unlike the stock tires. imo, they are almost as predictable as the stock tires, which was the main thing i loved about the oem tires. the oem tires enhanced the cars attributes. the sport comps do trade some of that feeling for grip, but any grippier tire is going to do that. __________________ "The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time"

12-29-2019, 06:47 PM	#2
DarkPira7e Rust bucket enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 2013 Turbo Firestorm FRS Location: Vermont Posts: 3,932 Thanks: 3,198 Thanked 4,095 Times in 2,045 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Probably any 300+ treadwear tire will be where you want. I like the Hankook ventus v2 concept2 all seasons for an all around tire for low power level cars

12-29-2019, 08:34 PM	#3
Dorkhedeos Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: 2015 BRZ Location: SF Posts: 69 Thanks: 10 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would suggest trying GT radial SX2 in 215 or 225 width. At about $80 a tire you can't go wrong with them.

12-29-2019, 08:48 PM	#4
Clutch Dog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Drives: 2017 BRZ PP , 2005 Saab 97X Location: CA Posts: 1,052 Thanks: 754 Thanked 721 Times in 405 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	firehawk indy's too much grip?... stop being a wuss and commit to the gas I personally always enjoyed dailying on bfg sport comp a/s (their sport comp 2 is a summer) they offered good grip and easy to manipulate. they are inline with the cooper RS3-G1 and i think general AS-05? i also liked the primacy's for their flingability, shrugs its a nice change from the super 200's im normally on

12-30-2019, 12:24 AM	#5
HaXx Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Drives: jrsc_brz Location: boston Posts: 966 Thanks: 726 Thanked 675 Times in 336 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm on the bfg sport comp 2 summers in 225 right now. Thumbs up

12-30-2019, 10:38 AM	#6
scuzzy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Drives: 22 BRZ limited MT Location: Bay Area Posts: 113 Thanks: 96 Thanked 115 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i'm on the Indy 500's 225x17x45 and have no problem kicking the back end out. No mods.

12-30-2019, 01:58 PM	#9
Clutch Dog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Drives: 2017 BRZ PP , 2005 Saab 97X Location: CA Posts: 1,052 Thanks: 754 Thanked 721 Times in 405 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was torn between the BFG sport comp2 and the indy 500's but tirerack made the deciding factor with pricing deals haha

12-30-2019, 05:55 PM	#11
Spuds The Dictater Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS Location: MD, USA Posts: 9,427 Thanks: 26,108 Thanked 12,430 Times in 6,146 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I like the Advan v105s I ran this summer. They were pretty cheap in stock size. Actually, I've found the BFG gforce comp-2 AS that I have for "winter" to be quite responsive and predictable in both wet and dry. Definitely more grip than stock, but still playful. Pretty heavy though as I recall...

12-30-2019, 06:50 PM	#12
Breadman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Drives: 2017 BRZ w/PP Location: Pa Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 51 Thanked 302 Times in 225 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i ran 255/40/17 indy500s last year and definitely slide the back out. put it in track mode or long push TC

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