oil cooler for innovate supercharger - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Benn0r · 07-15-2013, 02:07 AM

i have decided to get an oilcooler for my innovate\sprintex\bullet supercharger. has anyone installed one in their car? i have heard that the hks, greddy are the good options.

ideas?

stockysnail · 07-15-2013, 02:27 AM

Oil cooler for the oil in the supercharger or just an oil cooler for the engine in general? I installed the Perrin oil cooler and it has dropped the oil temp around 20 degrees when on the freeway. Install was fairly simple with the hardest part taking off the front bumper.

Benn0r · 07-15-2013, 02:43 AM

engine in general, down in australia we have an intercooled innovate option which means that we just need an oil cooler for things like track days etc.

Cheers!

King Tut · 07-15-2013, 01:08 PM

I installed the Full Blown oil cooler two weeks ago. Great option for forced induction cars as it doesn't block intercoolers/heat exchangers:

TemeCal · 07-15-2013, 01:12 PM

If there is any chance of having @robispec ship you one of his coolers, I'd go that route. IMO, his solution is one of the best I've seen. I know you were just looking for an oil cooler, but his comes with a massively upgraded radiator as well. Well worth the money if you can pick one of these up!

Several others are running his cooling solution with the Innovate supercharger.

sw20kosh · 07-15-2013, 01:35 PM

^ what he said

If you want a larger radiator too, and an Oil-to-Water Oil cooler try looking into @robispec Cooling Solution

It works great on my innovate set up. Ran it at the track in 100+ deg weather and it worked beautifully.

Here are some logs of temps on the dyno. 6 WOT 4th gear runs with ~5 mins in between each. This shows the 1st and last pull to demonstrate there is no heat soak and temps are kept in-line.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=143

King Tut · 07-15-2013, 01:54 PM

I am not sure that 6 runs over the course of 30 minutes on a dyno with the hood open and fans blowing is the best example of how well a cooling solution works.

sw20kosh · 07-15-2013, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut

I am not sure that 6 runs over the course of 30 minutes on a dyno with the hood open and fans blowing is the best example of how well a cooling solution works.

Never said it was the best test. It is the only data I have right now.

Now that I know how to data log I plan on doing some logging next time I am at the track. (As far as track temps go all I have right now is anecdotal evidence on Robi and my car which performed well. I do know he just ran a time attack at chuckwalla in 116 deg heat and he says fluid temps were good.)

jamesm · 07-15-2013, 02:12 PM

I've yet to see my coolant temps rise above what they were stock, and I've been beating the hell out of my car since the turbo got installed. I think our stock radiator is sufficient, definitely for street cars. Haven't tracked it yet though.

King Tut · 07-15-2013, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Never said it was the best test. It is the only data I have right now.

Now that I know how to data log I plan on doing some logging next time I am at the track.

Nice ninja edit.

The true test is a log of coolant/oil temps during a 20 minute session on track.

sw20kosh · 07-15-2013, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut

The true test is a log of coolant/oil temps during a 20 minute session on track.

Dezoris · 07-15-2013, 02:30 PM

It's the recovery time that is different, and overall efficiency and resistance to heat soak that makes the larger radiator important.

Stock vs aftermarket rad in open air low load there is no difference, on and off hard throttle in open air there is marginal difference.

The major difference is idle/dirty air and full load for extended time frames. That's when you see the temps on the aftermarket radiator recover 30-40% faster.

You have to look at idle temps with no air flow, high load temps, and cruising temps to see the whole picture.

Boofneenee · 07-21-2014, 10:49 PM

Months have passed since this thread has been posted. Have more Innovative owners been installing oil coolers with their Stg 1 SC or left it stock?
Anyone care to share their temperatures with or without an oil cooler while at idle, cruising or under heavy load?

xjohnx · 07-21-2014, 11:12 PM

I went with the Perrin oil cooler. Easy install, perfect fit, very happy overall. The mishimoto will not fit with the intercooled innovate kit.

it's been a while since i paid close attention to the temps, but if i recall i was hitting ~240 degrees before the oil cooler, i don't think i have seen the oil temps exceed ~215 since installing the oil cooler.

07-15-2013, 02:07 AM	#1
Benn0r Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 GTS Location: Australia Posts: 21 Thanks: 3 Thanked 40 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	oil cooler for innovate supercharger i have decided to get an oilcooler for my innovate\sprintex\bullet supercharger. has anyone installed one in their car? i have heard that the hks, greddy are the good options. ideas? __________________ View my build thread here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40763

07-15-2013, 02:43 AM	#3
Benn0r Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 GTS Location: Australia Posts: 21 Thanks: 3 Thanked 40 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	engine in general, down in australia we have an intercooled innovate option which means that we just need an oil cooler for things like track days etc. Cheers! __________________ View my build thread here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40763

07-15-2013, 01:08 PM	#4
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King Tut NASA SpecE30 Racer Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2006 Honda S2000 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 7,279 Thanks: 607 Thanked 5,759 Times in 3,055 Posts Mentioned: 274 Post(s) Tagged: 10 Thread(s)	I am not sure that 6 runs over the course of 30 minutes on a dyno with the hood open and fans blowing is the best example of how well a cooling solution works. __________________ - King Tut Street/Track Car: 2006 Honda S2000 TT3 \|\| Race Car: 1987 BMW 325is SpecE30 \|\| Tow Vehicle: 2014 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel Sold Cars: 2012 BMW M3 \|\| 2013 Subaru BRZ \|\| 2012 Porsche Cayman R \|\| 2009 Chevrolet Z06 \|\| 2009 BMW M3 \|\| 2004 BMW M3 \|\| 2004 Nissan 350Z

07-15-2013, 02:30 PM	#12
Dezoris Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: IL Posts: 2,857 Thanks: 519 Thanked 2,997 Times in 1,095 Posts Mentioned: 159 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	It's the recovery time that is different, and overall efficiency and resistance to heat soak that makes the larger radiator important. Stock vs aftermarket rad in open air low load there is no difference, on and off hard throttle in open air there is marginal difference. The major difference is idle/dirty air and full load for extended time frames. That's when you see the temps on the aftermarket radiator recover 30-40% faster. You have to look at idle temps with no air flow, high load temps, and cruising temps to see the whole picture. __________________ SAVAGEGEESE

07-15-2013, 01:12 PM	#5
TemeCal Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 86 Location: US Posts: 686 Thanks: 377 Thanked 303 Times in 181 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	If there is any chance of having @robispec ship you one of his coolers, I'd go that route. IMO, his solution is one of the best I've seen. I know you were just looking for an oil cooler, but his comes with a massively upgraded radiator as well. Well worth the money if you can pick one of these up! Several others are running his cooling solution with the Innovate supercharger.

07-15-2013, 01:35 PM	#6
sw20kosh Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Black FR-S Location: SF Posts: 3,030 Thanks: 881 Thanked 2,014 Times in 990 Posts Mentioned: 153 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	^ what he said If you want a larger radiator too, and an Oil-to-Water Oil cooler try looking into @robispec Cooling Solution It works great on my innovate set up. Ran it at the track in 100+ deg weather and it worked beautifully. Here are some logs of temps on the dyno. 6 WOT 4th gear runs with ~5 mins in between each. This shows the 1st and last pull to demonstrate there is no heat soak and temps are kept in-line. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=143

07-15-2013, 02:12 PM	#9
jamesm Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,929 Thanks: 1,166 Thanked 2,293 Times in 1,180 Posts Mentioned: 313 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	I've yet to see my coolant temps rise above what they were stock, and I've been beating the hell out of my car since the turbo got installed. I think our stock radiator is sufficient, definitely for street cars. Haven't tracked it yet though.

07-21-2014, 10:49 PM	#13
Boofneenee Go-Kart Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: Toyota Scion FRS Location: Yup Posts: 800 Thanks: 576 Thanked 309 Times in 188 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Months have passed since this thread has been posted. Have more Innovative owners been installing oil coolers with their Stg 1 SC or left it stock? Anyone care to share their temperatures with or without an oil cooler while at idle, cruising or under heavy load? __________________ FRS Current mods: K&N air filter, OFT, OFH, berk high flow cat front pipe, Q300 exhaust, lighter wheels

07-21-2014, 11:12 PM	#14
xjohnx Grip>Slip Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 SWP BRZ Ltd - Innovate Powered! Location: RVA Posts: 3,563 Thanks: 656 Thanked 1,716 Times in 1,031 Posts Mentioned: 45 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I went with the Perrin oil cooler. Easy install, perfect fit, very happy overall. The mishimoto will not fit with the intercooled innovate kit. it's been a while since i paid close attention to the temps, but if i recall i was hitting ~240 degrees before the oil cooler, i don't think i have seen the oil temps exceed ~215 since installing the oil cooler.

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