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Old 06-19-2017, 05:28 AM   #29
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It's at Church; the before dynos are the same as any other FRS/BRZ tuned there, there are hundreds of dynos scattered throughout the forums. A CARB JRSC should put down approximately 245-255whp on ACN91.

Here's the CSG BRZ on HBP (9% more boost), and a A/350 (non-ceramic) on E70.

Not shown: CSG BRZ on HBP and A/350 (non-ceramic) on ACN91 puts down approximately 335whp.



For reference, here's a stock 2105 ACN91 vs A/350 ACN91 vs A/350 E70



and my 2017, stock, on VP101

Mike, currently I have the Edelbrock SC setup on my MY2017. Have you or Delicious Tuning worked on any MY17s utilizing the EBSC and the CS400 yet?

I plan on getting that (due to me not being in 6k-7k range a lot) along with the ACE stainless steel FP then applying the DT.

If you have dyno results for 91/92/93 octane for aforementioned kit, let me know

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Mike, currently I have the Edelbrock SC setup on my MY2017. Have you or Delicious Tuning worked on any MY17s utilizing the EBSC and the CS400 yet?

I plan on getting that (due to me not being in 6k-7k range a lot) along with the ACE stainless steel FP then applying the DT.

If you have dyno results for 91/92/93 octane for aforementioned kit, let me know

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Sure have. A/350 results are almost universally better for SC cars though. Unfortunately most owners ask for their dynos to not be posted, and we have to honor that request.

I make over 200whp on the DT dyno with just the A/350 header alone, no boost
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Old 06-20-2017, 09:32 AM   #31
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Sure have. A/350 results are almost universally better for SC cars though.
Good info as always. Does the CS400 not retain any low end advantage? I'm looking at the JRSC with hbp and 7k redline after the newness wears off on my BRZ. I DD mine and would prefer the low end benefits if they still exist though.
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Good info as always. Does the CS400 not retain any low end advantage? I'm looking at the JRSC with hbp and 7k redline after the newness wears off on my BRZ. I DD mine and would prefer the low end benefits if they still exist though.
You want the Edelbrock SC if you want low end power, not the Jackson Racing SC. The SC will amplify the header gains, and vice versa, with a good tune. If low end is what you want, get the Edelbrock + CS400.
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I haven't dyno'd it, and my only supporting mods are a drop in air filter (Cosworth) and the DT tune. The rest of the exhaust is 100% stock.

I can tell you that this setup has much more torque than I was expecting. It has usable torque even down at 2000 rpm. It's not unusual for me to be putting along in traffic at about 65 km/h in 6th gear. From there, the power just builds like a freight train (well, ok, an NA freight train) all the way to red line. You will not be disappointing.
Oh lawd you got me excited. Can't wait to get mine
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You want the Edelbrock SC if you want low end power, not the Jackson Racing SC. The SC will amplify the header gains, and vice versa, with a good tune. If low end is what you want, get the Edelbrock + CS400.
The car is ok imo in the sub-3500 rpm range as it is stock, I would just prefer to augment that range if it was a simple trade off in the header selection. Not looking for big low-rpm boost.
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The car is ok imo in the sub-3500 rpm range as it is stock, I would just prefer to augment that range if it was a simple trade off in the header selection. Not looking for big low-rpm boost.
Can you define "that range"?
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There's a few on the shelf at CSG looking for a home
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Can you define "that range"?
~1500 to 3500 rpm
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Yup you want CS400.
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Yup you want CS400.
I want to keep my car NA... Ace 350 type A vs anaconda 42.7mm?

No plans for boost in the future. Looking to get the 2017 manifold with a bigger throttle body too.
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I want to keep my car NA... Ace 350 type A vs anaconda 42.7mm?

No plans for boost in the future. Looking to get the 2017 manifold with a bigger throttle body too.
A350. Anaconda is for race applications only.
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I've ordered one from Ace's Canadian distributors already. Patiently waiting.
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Sorry to re-post from another thread but I hoping to get an answer and move forward and order some headers.

Being RHD I can go for the 250 or the 400. Other than 'the 250 is better at high revs and less so at lower revs' versus 'the 400 is better at lower revs and less so at high revs' I can't find any qualitative assessment of the two. Am I sacrificing 10% power at 4000rpm to get 2% better at 7000rpm on the 250? If that is the case I'd probably go with the 400.

If anyone can help please shout out otherwise I'll have to flip a coin!

The main plan is to optimise for track days and hopefully get a good bump for DD and flatten the torque curve. I think the 400 is better for linear torque but at what expense at the top end?
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