|
Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain. |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
03-22-2018, 09:54 AM | #29 | |
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2013
Drives: FT86
Location: Australia
Posts: 7,998
Thanks: 1,035
Thanked 4,987 Times in 2,981 Posts
Mentioned: 598 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
I don't believe you will have any problems with ECU, they are all same even manual/auto all years. you just need to flash in compatable ecu calibration. But your not changing that so should be fine. done a few ecu swaps now |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to steve99 For This Useful Post: | pgranberg11 (03-22-2018) |
03-22-2018, 09:55 AM | #30 |
BoostedBRZ
Join Date: Mar 2014
Drives: Turbo BRZ
Location: IL
Posts: 689
Thanks: 171
Thanked 258 Times in 190 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
yea the old ECU is going to be tuned by HRI tuning with my JDL turbo kit so other than that it should be good to go. thanks!
__________________
|
04-11-2018, 07:36 PM | #31 | |
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: FRS, Supra, Colorado D, GLC63
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 1,025
Thanks: 752
Thanked 1,515 Times in 532 Posts
Mentioned: 111 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
OH BOY, the irony of this post. I'm still working on this guys "swap". You did a HORRIBLE job, and I hope no FT86 member ever takes another car to you. You completely screwed this poor kid over, and it has been one hell of a time getting this car back to running. You should NOT have swapped anything from the 13' car. And you gave the car back to him with nearly every fault code in history, on the car, with the engine barely running. He then limped the car to another shop who tried to rip him off, claiming the o2 sensors were in the wrong place(Mann Engineering $1200!!!) You used the wrong bolts for the intake manifold, there are cross threaded bolts everywhere. You are a complete joke. You even charged him $200 to flash his ECU back to stock. I hope your LS swap blows up... This car fired up for the first time TODAY "properly", however I am still convinced it isn't possible now, without the bulkhead harness too. After swapping back, and having to purchase a bunch of new 2017 parts(the old ones were not provided back to the customer, minus the ECU, which we obvisously had to bypass the immobilizer in) the car will start and idle but hunts, throwing a p0193 code. My guess at the moment, is that the 4-wire fuel pressure sensor, does not have a proper ground. Even though, the Engine harness plugs into the old bulkhead harness, there isn't a provision for the extra wire to make it back to the ECU. This code is common with fuel pressure regulator failures, so to rule that out, I swapped in a good regulator and even tried turning the code off in Ecutek(which will not allow the car to start) I need to get my hands on a 2017 pinout, so I can see about individually grounding the sensor now. At this point, I would not recommend anyone try and do this swap without having an entire donor car to do it. |
|
The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to The Racers Line For This Useful Post: | akyp (04-12-2018), DandoX (04-11-2018), EAGLE5 (04-11-2018), gravitylover (09-03-2020), Hades (11-11-2020), paintdude258 (06-22-2020), rixter145 (09-24-2019), Ro_Ja (04-15-2018), strat61caster (04-11-2018), Tcoat (04-12-2018), Teseo (04-12-2018), Trust86 (04-11-2018), weederr33 (04-11-2018), whataboutbob (01-31-2023) |
04-11-2018, 10:51 PM | #32 |
Dismember
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: 2013 Red Scion FR-S
Location: Castro Valley
Posts: 5,557
Thanks: 2,152
Thanked 3,999 Times in 2,155 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
|
__________________
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to EAGLE5 For This Useful Post: |
04-11-2018, 11:05 PM | #33 | |
Airborne at your service
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 6,313
Thanks: 4,522
Thanked 5,569 Times in 2,921 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
04-12-2018, 12:03 AM | #34 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Drives: 2017 WR BLUE BRZ
Location: San Jose
Posts: 641
Thanks: 608
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Wow, that's a lot loud noises coming from you. Surprising really because my interaction with the owner of that car was transparent, straight forward and all the details were agreed upon. My part in this deal between two enthusiast goes as follows; I sold him a 2017 motor with around 800 miles on it for $4000.00, stock air box for $150.00, supplied a missing ignition coil $120.00 and paid for a tow $70.00 - $4340.00. I installed the engine and swapped over all the parts for free to help us both out. The car was previously equipped with a supercharger, other aftermarket items and possibly had a tune and ecutek controller? The original engine was very broken, parts of the engine were stuck in the catalytic converter. The '17 engine was installed but it was not a finished product and required other work to be performed. It seemed to run good, but did not idle properly, the conclusion the owner and I came to was that it had a tuning issue and needed attention I couldn't provide. The owner decided to take it to another shop that he thought had the ability to tune it. Any additional items he requested, that I did not need, he was welcome to have. Any stripped out or missing parts happened before or after I did my part. Not sure if you were his original mechanic...but I'm glad you have it just about figured out, great job pal...too bad you decided to throw a bunch of dirt at me without being sure to have accurate facts, a shame too since we are local to each other and enthusiast of the same platform, I'm sure our paths will cross sooner or later, would have liked it to be on better terms. Here is a video of it running when I last saw it. Last edited by ILLSMOQ; 04-12-2018 at 01:13 AM. Reason: Removed screen shots until I have permission to post. |
|
04-12-2018, 02:30 AM | #35 |
Dismember
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: 2013 Red Scion FR-S
Location: Castro Valley
Posts: 5,557
Thanks: 2,152
Thanked 3,999 Times in 2,155 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
|
Hold on guys. Let me go get the cock ruler. Drop your pants. I'll be gentle.
Or will I? This is the shit I get for deleting my Facebook account. Now I gotta go to forums for my socializing at 11:30 at night. Fuck me.
__________________
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to EAGLE5 For This Useful Post: |
04-12-2018, 10:00 AM | #36 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Drives: 2013 Ultramarine FR-S
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 1,944
Thanks: 2,534
Thanked 1,392 Times in 800 Posts
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
|
In For Updates.
__________________
|
04-12-2018, 10:22 AM | #37 | |
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: FRS, Supra, Colorado D, GLC63
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 1,025
Thanks: 752
Thanked 1,515 Times in 532 Posts
Mentioned: 111 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
You are sharing a high dollar build on the forum, yet can't manage to differentiate simple bolts that need to go in correct places, proper torque procedures, and even forgetting the damn ground straps on the engine! This kind of work is inexcusable from a shop owner/mechanic. You didn't even bother to remove the intercooler or piping?! 5 mins extra work... BTW, he was a previous customer of mine, before this car.(his other car, I had worked on was totaled) This car had Evasive's spare Pikes Peak motor in it, and Vortech Supercharger, which blew. He called me frantically when it happened, and I had him tow the car in to me. We discussed options, and when he told me the deal you offered him, I said "sure, great, as long as the guy knows what he's doing". It is apparent, that you didn't. If you had pulled the codes from the car, you would have seen over a dozen cam/crank correlation codes, fueling codes, and MAP/MAF correlation codes. I don't care what kind of mechanic you are, you don't send a car home like that. And convincing a young kid, that the car just needs some tuning work, is a joke. I'm not sorry for throwing dirt at you. This profession is getting smaller and smaller, and shop's need to be held accountable for their work. People don't trust auto shops as it is, you're not helping... Edit: I will give you a pass on some of the extra parts. The other shop he took the car too, had the old block I guess. After their crazy quote for work, he decided to have the car towed back up to me instead, but apparently left the block at their shop. (most of the towing was done without him present) After multiple emails and calls, they ignored, he got ahold of them, and they said "uh, sorry we threw it away." Absolute joke. |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to The Racers Line For This Useful Post: | clayrush (04-28-2019) |
04-12-2018, 11:05 AM | #38 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Drives: 2017 WR BLUE BRZ
Location: San Jose
Posts: 641
Thanks: 608
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Once the engine was in the car was in and running, it wasn’t supposed to be going home, the owner took it to be tuned. Who knows what happened from there. Everything the car had originally and all the ‘17 items went with it, safely boxed or strapped to the back of the tow truck . At the time, I even offered to take the ‘17 engine back out and work with him to install another engine if tuning it didn’t work out. That was 6 months ago. And here you are handing out report cards. |
|
04-12-2018, 11:30 AM | #39 | |
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: FRS, Supra, Colorado D, GLC63
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 1,025
Thanks: 752
Thanked 1,515 Times in 532 Posts
Mentioned: 111 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
How about the missing ground straps, or the bottomed out strut tower bolts in the manifold, or the loose bell housing bolts, or the red-locktited flywheel bolts, or the stripped airbox mounting bolts, the list goes on. It's not a report card man, you just don't get it. You came into this thread, claiming to have performed this swap. It doesn't work, plain and simple. To add insult to injury, the actual worked performed, is not something you expect from a professional shop. You want the motor back now? It's got a bunch of new parts on it.(which if you see above, I said, was the fault of the other shop) |
|
04-12-2018, 11:32 AM | #40 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Drives: 2017 WR BLUE BRZ
Location: San Jose
Posts: 641
Thanks: 608
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Also...when my LS blows up and dumps it’s guts, I hope it’s at the track and while I’m in front of you.
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ILLSMOQ For This Useful Post: | DustinS (04-12-2018), The Racers Line (04-12-2018) |
04-12-2018, 11:46 AM | #41 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Drives: 2017 WR BLUE BRZ
Location: San Jose
Posts: 641
Thanks: 608
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
I get what you’re saying about the ‘17 swap into the earlier car, at the time nobody had definitive answers and today we still don’t. I’ll concede that my posting to the swap of a later engine into and earlier Car was premature. As far as I knew it worked out or was being worked out. Keep up the good work, you are obviously a professional. |
|
04-12-2018, 09:36 PM | #42 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: 2015 Scion FR-S 1968 Camaro BB402
Location: Thousand Oaks, California
Posts: 109
Thanks: 41
Thanked 45 Times in 24 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
2017 fa20 engine into 2013 car?
...and they all lived happily ever after!
See, kids, when you don’t know how to turn a ratchet yourself mommy and daddy fight ________ ~refer to username~ |
The Following User Says Thank You to idkwhatimdoing For This Useful Post: | strat61caster (04-15-2018) |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
FS: 2013 FA20 engine w/spun bearing | Bullnettles | Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons | 9 | 04-05-2017 06:39 PM |
FS: FA20 Engine | Sportsguy83 | Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons | 12 | 03-01-2017 02:51 PM |
2017 engine vs 2013 engine | DailyDriver86 | Engine, Exhaust, Transmission | 17 | 11-09-2016 05:16 PM |
Looking to buy FA20 engine | ndreim | Want-To-Buy Requests | 0 | 12-15-2015 06:06 PM |
FA20 Engine Wins Ward's 10 Best Engines of 2013 | Jeffsu350 | Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum | 111 | 03-15-2015 03:39 AM |