Let's talk lug nuts.

[CoolHandMoss]

I like the 949 lug nuts. I have used them on my twins and Miatas before that. Very good quality parts. They hold up to long term use better than some others that I have used.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by HaXx

I just ordered enkeis from tire rack and it includes 20 "required lugnut for vehicle" at no charge. Any idea if they are tire rack brand? Base enkei lugs? I'm planing on using them unless you guys object.

Whatever you get from tire rack will be quality, go ahead and throw them on!

[86MLR]

Originally Posted by HaXx

I just ordered enkeis from tire rack and it includes 20 "required lugnut for vehicle" at no charge. Any idea if they are tire rack brand? Base enkei lugs? I'm planing on using them unless you guys object.

The RS05RR that I got for my STI came with Rays steel nuts.

That was in AU though, you may get something different.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

The weight argument is moot unless your wheels weigh like 16lbs. You'll never notice the difference.

That said, closed end steel. I tried open ended but I got tired real quick of my wheels getting coated in rusty juice whenever it rains. Got a set of Muteki SR35 in black.

What if they weigh 6lbs? The point is to save weight where you can. Any way to eke out a little bit better gas mileage is worth it to me.

Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Weight savings? Ha!! Not sure if that's part of the marketing scheme, or you really think less than 1lb is going to make a difference.

If that's the case, do you take a shit every time you go out to drive? Cause you can save a pound or two.

Besides it's not like you are in a high stakes race where every gram counts.
Eh. To me that's on the level as what old ricers would love to say.

Have you read Anthony's thread? you save weight where you can. Lots of things less than 1 pound can add up. As long as they are quality from a good company they'll be fine.

Originally Posted by HaXx

I just ordered enkeis from tire rack and it includes 20 "required lugnut for vehicle" at no charge. Any idea if they are tire rack brand? Base enkei lugs? I'm planing on using them unless you guys object.

You'll get some random steel lugnuts. They'll work. So will your oem ones since subaru uses acorn lug nuts which are the same you need to use for most aftermarket wheels.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by why?

What if they weigh 6lbs?

What? Really?

The stock ones weigh 0.8lbs total. Even if you made them out of depleted uranium they'd weigh under 2lbs. You'd need a material half the density of the core of the sun to make them total 6lbs! Please let us know when you find these lug nuts, we can finally crack nuclear fusion when you do!

You'd better shave your new tires down to 25% before putting them on, there's way more weight savings there!

[Lincoln Logs]

Either open ended or closed end aluminum lug nuts are the best. In the event you cross thread, you'll lose a cheap lug nut instead of a stud. There are no issues using aluminum lug nuts on track either, I've done it for years and years with my Miata. Lots of misinformation in this thread.

[mooshu47]

Speaking of lug nuts: I bought a set of these:

https://thmotorsports.com/487340-kic...t-r40-lug-nuts

And I can't find any end caps for them. The ones for the iconix lugs don't fit these (the threads are the right size but the cap part is too big to fit into the lug). Anyone know where to get some? Or something else I could use? Bubble gum?

[Mr.ac]

Originally Posted by why?

What if they weigh 6lbs? The point is to save weight where you can. Any way to eke out a little bit better gas mileage is worth it to me.



Have you read Anthony's thread? you save weight where you can. Lots of things less than 1 pound can add up. As long as they are quality from a good company they'll be fine.



You'll get some random steel lugnuts. They'll work. So will your oem ones since subaru uses acorn lug nuts which are the same you need to use for most aftermarket wheels.

Things ricers say for $1000 Alex.



Come on dude. I'll take it as a joke. Cause it really reads as a joke.

[new2subaru]

[GhostRai]

I personally use steel, closed end (black mcgard tuner lugs). My friends use Work/RAYS aluminum lugs which work just fine for them as well. General rule is that aluminum are fine and just as strong for most purposes, just don't use power tools on them.

While OEM have the correct taper for aftermarket wheels (worked just fine with my Enkei for a few days), they don't look as nice as aftermarkets, are sunk pretty far into most aftermarket wheels (aesthetics again), and the chrome finish corroded.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Things ricers say for $1000 Alex.



Come on dude. I'll take it as a joke. Cause it really reads as a joke.

Aww, poor baby can't read.

Originally Posted by Anthony

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=147
Lug nuts (x5)
0.590lbs | 267.6g - Muteki SR48 (Source)
0.440lbs | 199.5g - Muteki SR35 (Source)
0.410lbs | 185.9g - Gorilla Chrome Tuner (Source)
0.275lbs | 124.7g - OEM (Source) (Additional Source)
0.250lbs | 113.3g - Rays Engineering (Source)
0.250lbs | 113.3g - VMS Racing (Source)
0.202lbs | 092.0g - CSG aluminum (Source)
0.144lbs | 065.3g - Gorilla forged aluminum (Source)

Looks like a difference to me. Next you are going to say 2751 and 2280 are the exact same weight, right?

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

What? Really?

The stock ones weigh 0.8lbs total. Even if you made them out of depleted uranium they'd weigh under 2lbs. You'd need a material half the density of the core of the sun to make them total 6lbs! Please let us know when you find these lug nuts, we can finally crack nuclear fusion when you do!

You'd better shave your new tires down to 25% before putting them on, there's way more weight savings there!

reread the quote and the conversation. We weren't talking about the lug nuts.

[ZionsWrath]

Depends on your application. With frequent wheel changes and/or tracking I really loved when I switched to ARP extended studs and muteki sr48 (open end lugs). No issues trying to start the threads with the tiny Subaru lugs through the deeper holes of my wider wheels to the subaru short stud. Also I felt a lot more comfortable using the impact on the ARP studs than OEM.


That said if I only street drove the car and the wheels came off only once or twice a year I would probably prefer closed lug nut.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by why?

reread the quote and the conversation. We weren't talking about the lug nuts.

Ooooohhhhhhhhh

[HaXx]

Will open end really cause it to rust that bad?