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g e · 03-31-2023, 06:16 PM

Looking at new tires

Ideally Michelins Sport 4S but reading good things about the Indy 500’s…

..but reports say can be ”twitchy” in rain

Just how “twitchy” are they?

Spin out happy at 7o mph?

Clipdat · 03-31-2023, 07:16 PM

They are a good tire, but easily outclassed by the PS4S.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh · 04-01-2023, 09:29 AM

They're alright. I have them on now, going back to Michelins

RToyo86 · 04-01-2023, 10:26 AM

Biggest thing that impressed me with the PS4S was wet grip. Indy's are a good budget tire if you can get them at a good price.
I wouldn't consider them dangerous in the wet but they're not confidence inspiring like PS4S are.

Kittykate · 04-02-2023, 10:51 PM

I run these on 17x9s and have been quite happy with their performance in the rain. No twitchiness to speak of that I've noticed.

new2subaru · 04-03-2023, 08:27 PM

I have a set that I use on street and I'm not a fan of them in the rain. They're an okay tire. I'd give them a 7 out of 10.

Vital · 04-04-2023, 09:08 AM

I have these currently and I'm on my 2nd set actually. I personally really like them for the street and I also have not felt any twitchy-ness in the rain.

brandonblt2 · 04-04-2023, 11:29 AM

On my second set in 255's and supercharged. Never experienced any twitchiness or lose of grip in the rain but I also don't drive crazy in the rain.

new2subaru · 04-05-2023, 05:03 AM

I wouldn't call it twitchiness in the rain. There are just tires that perform better in rainy conditions IMO. They can lose grip easily when taking off from a standstill driving like a normal human being, which doesn't instill much confidence in braking/turning. I would still say they're a decent tire for the money.

SkyeHack · 04-05-2023, 11:39 AM

The only time I hydroplane in my car was when I had Firehawk Indy 500s and merging on the highway while it was raining. I spun into a flat ditch and shit my pants. I ordered new tires and switched back to Michelin PS4S....

alphasaur · 04-05-2023, 03:12 PM

falken fk510 is very good in wet and worth considering

strat61caster · 04-05-2023, 06:20 PM

Jesus, $170/each on tirerack right now for oe size 500’s, great tire at $86, and with todays pricing $120ish is justifiable, maybe $140, but $170 is silly.

If I wanted to save money I’d go Hankook or Falken. I’m hearing PS4S ain’t what it used to be so I’ll be sticking with Continental ECS (upgrade to 02) for my next set of daily tires.

Edit; hmm Bridgestone potenza Sports may be viable too…

SkyeHack · 04-05-2023, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Jesus, $170/each on tirerack right now for oe size 500’s, great tire at $86, and with todays pricing $120ish is justifiable, maybe $140, but $170 is silly.

If I wanted to save money I’d go Hankook or Falken. I’m hearing PS4S ain’t what it used to be so I’ll be sticking with Continental ECS (upgrade to 02) for my next set of daily tires.

Edit; hmm Bridgestone potenza Sports may be viable too…

Michelin PS S 5 are right around the corner:

https://www.motor1.com/news/659747/m...ort-s-5-video/

Decep · 04-05-2023, 08:58 PM

I'd stick with the Michelins, usually get at least 30k miles out of em, i am guessing the Firestones are about half that.

03-31-2023, 06:16 PM	#1
g e Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Somewhere in The States Posts: 393 Thanks: 337 Thanked 259 Times in 158 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Firestone firehawk Indy 500 Looking at new tires Ideally Michelins Sport 4S but reading good things about the Indy 500’s… ..but reports say can be ”twitchy” in rain Just how “twitchy” are they? Spin out happy at 7o mph?

04-01-2023, 09:29 AM	#3
StraightOuttaCanadaEh Wes Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: Artisan Spirits '17 86 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,794 Thanks: 1,165 Thanked 1,674 Times in 994 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	They're alright. I have them on now, going back to Michelins __________________ Instagram: @gt86ws

04-04-2023, 11:29 AM	#8
brandonblt2 The Stig's African Cousin Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2014 wrb brz Location: NJ Posts: 719 Thanks: 1,537 Thanked 485 Times in 255 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	On my second set in 255's and supercharged. Never experienced any twitchiness or lose of grip in the rain but I also don't drive crazy in the rain. __________________ Instagram: brandonblt2 Build Thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...86#post2219386 Flickr: brandonblt567

04-05-2023, 11:39 AM	#10
SkyeHack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: 2018 BRZ tS Location: Florida Posts: 158 Thanks: 512 Thanked 137 Times in 56 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The only time I hydroplane in my car was when I had Firehawk Indy 500s and merging on the highway while it was raining. I spun into a flat ditch and shit my pants. I ordered new tires and switched back to Michelin PS4S.... __________________

04-05-2023, 03:12 PM	#11
alphasaur friendly Join Date: Oct 2018 Drives: 17' 86 Location: Dutchess County, NY Posts: 719 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 466 Times in 284 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	falken fk510 is very good in wet and worth considering __________________ Seek comfort in discomfort.

04-01-2023, 10:26 AM	#4
RToyo86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: 17 Asphalt 86 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,172 Thanks: 1,710 Thanked 2,217 Times in 1,132 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Biggest thing that impressed me with the PS4S was wet grip. Indy's are a good budget tire if you can get them at a good price. I wouldn't consider them dangerous in the wet but they're not confidence inspiring like PS4S are.

04-02-2023, 10:51 PM	#5
Kittykate Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Drives: 2015 FR-S Location: USA Posts: 118 Thanks: 24 Thanked 149 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I run these on 17x9s and have been quite happy with their performance in the rain. No twitchiness to speak of that I've noticed.

04-03-2023, 08:27 PM	#6
new2subaru Weight Weenie Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 15 FR-S Location: Canada Posts: 2,586 Thanks: 5,016 Thanked 2,330 Times in 1,346 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have a set that I use on street and I'm not a fan of them in the rain. They're an okay tire. I'd give them a 7 out of 10.

04-04-2023, 09:08 AM	#7
Vital Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Drives: 2015 BRZ Location: Texas Posts: 692 Thanks: 213 Thanked 336 Times in 254 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have these currently and I'm on my 2nd set actually. I personally really like them for the street and I also have not felt any twitchy-ness in the rain.

04-05-2023, 05:03 AM	#9
new2subaru Weight Weenie Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 15 FR-S Location: Canada Posts: 2,586 Thanks: 5,016 Thanked 2,330 Times in 1,346 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wouldn't call it twitchiness in the rain. There are just tires that perform better in rainy conditions IMO. They can lose grip easily when taking off from a standstill driving like a normal human being, which doesn't instill much confidence in braking/turning. I would still say they're a decent tire for the money.

04-05-2023, 08:58 PM	#14
Decep Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: 2013 FR-S Series 10 Location: CA Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 172 Thanked 497 Times in 326 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd stick with the Michelins, usually get at least 30k miles out of em, i am guessing the Firestones are about half that. __________________ 2013 FR-S 10 Series ~75k (SOLD) RCE SS-1 Coilovers Corsa Catback Edelbrock Supercharger installed @ 50k

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