Thinking about switching from BMW 328i to Scion FR-S

[krayzie]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXwgiM3JmkI"]Advice to all my Watch Collecting Fans - Patek Philippe is the only SUPER BRAND - YouTube[/ame]


"If you don't have a Patek, well life is just fucked!"

"And um, the truth of the matter is, you know, you have a shit day at work; you can just look at your wrist, see your Patek and just sigh to yourself 'fuck you'. And this is the whole point." - Archie Luxury

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by krayzie

"Well if you don't have a Patek, well life is just fucked!" - Archieluxury

After doing some light research into watches, it's a great analogy and my watch "collection" will mirror my car "collection".

I've got a Seiko quartz chrono I like, it's like my 86. Not the most prestigious, not the best X for the price range, but satisfies what I want. It gets approval from those in the know who aren't up their own asshole, and people that know nothing have complimented it, just like an 86 (looks fast, looks expensive). Hey some people like $15 Timex's from Target, that's why Toyota makes Corollas and Prius and millions of people are happy with those too.

I want an SNK809 the same way I want an AW11 MR2 or NA Miata or E30/E36. Cheap and dirty fun that, excuse the pun, is timeless. On paper, it's inferior to what I have now, doesn't keep time as well, not as modern looking, the technology is primitive, but it's fun, it's rewarding to someone who 'gets it'. And when those shoot up in value we'll have other options at rock bottom prices available to replace them.

Maybe someday I'll be able to justify an Omega Speedmaster or Grand Seiko, just like someday, hopefully, I'll be able to justify a 911, M5, or FD RX-7. Hell maybe things take a turn for the worse and I'm shopping for old civics while wearing a $15 Timex, who knows.

I'll never own a Patek just like I'll never own a La Ferrari or 918, but I'm not crying about it. And if that makes me a wanker, well Archie can eat my dust the fat fuck.





For those that don't know and can't stand more than 20s of the video, I just Googled for the cheapest new Patek Philippe, it's about $10k for a thing you wear around your wrist. I'd rather buy two (or three) Mazda's for that money just like many watch collectors would rather buy two (or three) Rolexes.

And there are people who would rather die than be caught driving a Toyota/Honda/Chevy/Ford/Dodge/Nissan etc.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

For those that don't know and can't stand more than 20s of the video, I just Googled for the cheapest new Patek Philippe, it's about $10k for a thing you wear around your wrist. I'd rather buy two (or three) Mazda's for that money just like many watch collectors would rather buy two (or three) Rolexes.

And there are people who would rather die than be caught driving a Toyota/Honda/Chevy/Ford/Dodge/Nissan etc.

I have a good friend that has 12 (yes twelve) Rolexes. Searching out very certain models is his main hobby. Just like used cars if you know what you are doing and do enough looking there are good deals to be had and even money to be made. He makes about $20K a year just buying and selling the things (not his collection ones though).

[why?]

Originally Posted by mrg666

Completely wrong! For fun/sport driving, I switch to MANUAL mode and use the paddles or sequential shifter. Then, I choose the gear, not the AT. In the manual mode, gears shift quicker than MT with very efficient rev matching. In the stop and go traffic, I switch to AT and turn on the music while MT drivers are struggling with the clutch and stick shift.

Sorry I've never struggled in traffic. Not even in the hellhole bumper to bumper never moving 128 corridor in boston. Or the bumper to bumper hellhole Washington DC good luck to ever actually move morning commute traffic. Or the oh crap where am I in NY city at 2 am why the hell is there traffic now traffic please let me survive this traffic. I can drive my car with no hands in bumper to bumper traffic. It isn't hard.

Although I'd honestly think about getting an auto for the better gas mileage because that is how my mind is wired.

[Dark]

I traded my fully loaded 06 IS250 awd for fully loaded 15 WRX limited and plan on trading in for either BRZ limited or Miata RF GT. I don't feel like a downgrade. It comes down what you need. Just because a minivan cost 55k doesn't mean it an upgrade.

[86geek]

Originally Posted by Adam_L

YOLO !!

I've owned my xA since new, going on 10 years now = possibly time to sell and move on. However the xA only has 80k miles on her, great suspension /wheels/tires/ car is set up great for what it is, and can get me 40mpg . Great level of service out of the xA (original battery) , only had to do oil changes, manual tranny oil at 28k miles, on 3rd set of tires (Michelins now), and that's it. Hmmmmm, got me thinkin'

I had a 2006 xA with only 37,000 miles. I sold it to buy my 86.
Best lil car because great gas mileage and I could get into any small parking space!

[Adam_L]

The margin on Patek is 50 (50%). That was supposed to be confidential (ohhh well, come find me and break my legs because I am spreading the gospel ). Spend $20k on a Patek, we'll it only cost the jewelry store $10k to then resell it for $20k.

I guess I'm a wanker, since I am content with my $200 Citizen watch.

[m.box.design]

Originally Posted by why?

Although I'd honestly think about getting an auto for the better gas mileage because that is how my mind is wired.

Just swap in the final drive from the auto.

[Adam_L]

Originally Posted by 86geek

I had a 2006 xA with only 37,000 miles. I sold it to buy my 86.
Best lil car because great gas mileage and I could get into any small parking space!

Yeah it's a solid daily commuter that is fairly bomb-proof. There are several Scion life members with 300k+ miles still rolling on original engine + tranny. Sure, I could sell it tomorrow for $6-7k.....but it's almost like why, when I can drive it another 40k miles (before needing a clutch), and during that 4 yrs or so it may only lose $500- 1000 in value. Anyone I know who is looking for an inexpensive, good on gas, low maintenance cost, fairly versatile vehicle= I recommend the xA, no hesitation. Only imported for 3 years....the good die young.

[Watch Me Run]

Originally Posted by indesign

Just swap in the final drive from the auto.

Has this been attempted? I remember on another forum, 6gc.net, there was a thread about swapping a Camry final drive into a MT celica and it dropped the revs from 3500 rpm to 3200 at 80 mph. I know it's easier on that platform tho because largerly it's influenced by previous engineering, like the 5s-fe was pretty similar throughout it's various generations and decades but with upgrades and improvements throughout its lifecycle for power and emission standards.

I didn't realize that the swap on this one was possible with a auto tranny. If I could be so rude to ask for the thread to that one? I do plan on reading it extensively.

[darthpnoy1984]

Originally Posted by mrg666

Completely wrong! For fun/sport driving, I switch to MANUAL mode and use the paddles or sequential shifter. Then, I choose the gear, not the AT. In the manual mode, gears shift quicker than MT with very efficient rev matching. In the stop and go traffic, I switch to AT and turn on the music while MT drivers are struggling with the clutch and stick shift.

I agree, I've been driving manual for many years this is one of the AT that is quite impressive for what it does.

[FR-Sky]

Welcome!!!!

I personally suggest M/T, but up 2 u, u are the buyer

[deejaylew]

Originally Posted by mrg666

Completely wrong! For fun/sport driving, I switch to MANUAL mode and use the paddles or sequential shifter. Then, I choose the gear, not the AT. In the manual mode, gears shift quicker than MT with very efficient rev matching. In the stop and go traffic, I switch to AT and turn on the music while MT drivers are struggling with the clutch and stick shift.

I believe you didn't understand what you responded to. He is saying the gear ratios are different which makes the AT slower but more compliant. I think we all agree the automatic on the 86's are of good quality.

In essence you can choose your gears but you cant easily launch and the gears are also taller. In addition 1st to 2nd gear in the Auto isn't direct, I believe it runs through a torque converter. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong.

[venturaII]

Originally Posted by why?

Sorry I've never struggled in traffic. Not even in the hellhole bumper to bumper never moving 128 corridor in boston. Or the bumper to bumper hellhole Washington DC good luck to ever actually move morning commute traffic. Or the oh crap where am I in NY city at 2 am why the hell is there traffic now traffic please let me survive this traffic. I can drive my car with no hands in bumper to bumper traffic. It isn't hard.

Exactly...if you're 'struggling' with what might be the lightest clutch ever produced, you either need to get into the gym, or practice driving a manual more.