Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[sam69]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Sounds very intriguing. I thought you sold your sprintex?
Im using wmi and has pretty much completely eliminated heat-soak I paired that with a perrin cai and completely gold heat the wrapped entire intake piping and a seibon fa hood with the air vents and air scoop. Keeps IATs at or below ambient pretty much all the time.

I upgraded to a coated rotor unit and can only imagine how good it would be to have WMI with the water jacket and new laminova .

I reckon you would keep IAT's well below ambient .

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by sam69

I upgraded to a coated rotor unit and can only imagine how good it would be to have WMI with the water jacket and new laminova .

I reckon you would keep IAT's well below ambient .

You talking about the sps version? Notice any difference from the coated rotor? Log anymore boost? And

That jacket looks awesome. And a less restrictive heat exchanger would be cool to especially if it allowed for a 3bar map to be used.

Someday i want to get a sprintex 310 sps on 69mm pulley. With a built block of course.

[sam69]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

You talking about the sps version? Notice any difference from the coated rotor? Log anymore boost? And

That jacket looks awesome. And a less restrictive heat exchanger would be cool to especially if it allowed for a 3bar map to be used.

Someday i want to get a sprintex 310 sps on 69mm pulley. With a built block of course.

Car is not back on the road yet been a while so need to get my act together so the wifey tells me

The heat exchanger is chalk and cheese for flow so it's just a matter of how efficient it will be but should be very good, time will tell.

Did you mean the 335 sps ?

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by sam69

Car is not back on the road yet been a while so need to get my act together so the wifey tells me

The heat exchanger is chalk and cheese for flow so it's just a matter of how efficient it will be but should be very good, time will tell.

Did you mean the 335 sps ?

Oops. Yeah 335 sps. I would love to have 300ft lbs from 3500-7500rpm 320ft lbs peak around 5500rpm and 410whp around 7k. Idk if that kit can get me there though. Maybe with a built head / cams. Would make this car a monster.

[tzbang]

Originally Posted by sroby

Kevo mine did the same thing. That’s when Jon Bond and I became customer paying friends. He is the best in the buiss on these units.
Even after a rebuild take your elbow off and if your using his blue dye turbin oil, it will be saturated. When I pulled my intake before the rebuild it was coated with front gear drive blue oil. Yes it will accumulate enough to eventually foul a plug and cause a misfire code . He has spent a lot of time with there engineering side and only to fall on there def ears. There is an engineering flaw in the 210 series. And new 210 S series, these units will use oil. The S or X is just rotor pacs that are now powder coated to improve the efficiency mean less drag. They haven’t engineered a damn thing in so much as having the front seals to close to the front gear drive they get over heated and swell thus causing oil to blow by the seal lip and into the rotor pac where it gets crammed down the intake.
They are really pushing the sales of these units now on the Jeep crowd.
I’d be interested to see if the Jeep folks are experiencing the same type of oil consumption. Those units look a little different is appearance , but if they are not reengineered to have a longer clearance from seals to actual front drive gears they will have the same issue, I had my entire unit rebuild from the drive gear box front to the entire rotor pacs, right at 1300.00 with a 3 yr warranty but I think he has since stopped the long warranty process over at Jon Bond performance. It’s a shame as they make a fine compressor noise and build power excellently . No body state side to really service them other than Jon. Be a good deal to see how the other owners are farring out. It’s small and compact good boost.

Damn I have to say that’s pretty disappointing to read when I have just about finished my install. Kind of wish I went in another direction now 😕

[tzbang]

Originally Posted by sam69

I upgraded to a coated rotor unit and can only imagine how good it would be to have WMI with the water jacket and new laminova .

I reckon you would keep IAT's well below ambient .

You should manufacture more of those jackets and sell them here!

[kev0]

Originally Posted by tzbang

Damn I have to say that’s pretty disappointing to read when I have just about finished my install. Kind of wish I went in another direction now 😕

It's still very fun to drive. Low end torque is amazing. Just because our units were having problems doesn't mean yours will.

[jflogerzi]

Where are you guys reading intake temps. With the ecutek monitor I am roughly seeing about 20-30f over ambient depending how long I have been driving. What do others gets. Also is the pre intercooler or post? Also I have the intercooler mounted in the bottom where a typical air to air IC would go. Is this a bad idea.

Thanks

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[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Where are you guys reading intake temps. With the ecutek monitor I am roughly seeing about 20-30f over ambient depending how long I have been driving. What do others gets. Also is the pre intercooler or post? Also I have the intercooler mounted in the bottom where a typical air to air IC would go. Is this a bad idea.

Thanks

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I read with ecutek same as you, I'm at or below ambient whenever i go wot. Never had car feel “heat soaked” or down on power, even after fully warming car up then doing 10 back to back 20-80mph pulls as quickly as possible in 85F weather. Obviously not a autox or track scenario. But good enough to know it will never have issues in any daily driving or spirited driving conditions.

[jflogerzi]

I am never at or below ambient... Where do you have your IC mounted? I wonder if my pump is not functioning correctly... Are you also still using the stock snorkel in the bumper?

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[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

I am never at or below ambient... Where do you have your IC mounted? I wonder if my pump is not functioning correctly... Are you also still using the stock snorkel in the bumper?

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I have taken several measures to combat any possibility of any temperature concerns.
Mishimoto fanshroud, radiator, hoses, coolant.
Oil cooler in addition to the forester heat exchanger (yes i have both to warm up quicker)
Transmission cooler
IC is mounted in front of radiator with mishimoto coolant inside
I have a perrin cai, and the entire intake pipe inside engine bay is gold reflective heat wrapped.
I have seibon FA carbon fiber hood (the one with both vents and a hood scoop to blow cool air directly on top of supercharger, although my temp testing was done prior to this install)
And most importantly i have water methanol injection. Best solution to keep IAT down.
If i move closer to E85 i will probably run E50 in tandem with WMI for best of both worlds. But currently on 92+6oz boostane+WMI

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

I have taken several measures to combat any possibility of any temperature concerns.

Mishimoto fanshroud, radiator, hoses, coolant.

Oil cooler in addition to the forester heat exchanger (yes i have both to warm up quicker)

Transmission cooler

IC is mounted in front of radiator with mishimoto coolant inside

I have a perrin cai, and the entire intake pipe inside engine bay is gold reflective heat wrapped.

I have seibon FA carbon fiber hood (the one with both vents and a hood scoop to blow cool air directly on top of supercharger, although my temp testing was done prior to this install)

And most importantly i have water methanol injection. Best solution to keep IAT down.

If i move closer to E85 i will probably run E50 in tandem with WMI for best of both worlds. But currently on 92+6oz boostane+WMI

Can you show me a picture of the Perrin intake. No rush but when you get a moment.

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[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Can you show me a picture of the Perrin intake. No rush but when you get a moment.

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Mine and then another members with bumper removed.
Perrin intake also conveniently freed up space to run my oil cooler lines as well as use the bottom back bolt hole used for stock intake to mount my chase bays mini windshield washer reservoir/pump which dropped like 7lbs off the front end and made room for my trans cooler behind driver side fog light, and have oil cooler behind passenger side to not block IC and radiator airflow in middle.

[jflogerzi]

Is the connector for the Perrin cold intake to the stock plastic intake where the sensor sits custom or can you still buy it?

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