Griffen Badge - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

cyrus · 10-11-2012, 03:08 AM

I just wanted to get some opinions on replacing the front scion badge with the following emblem:

What's your take on this mod and do you think it'll look good?

I wanted to go with something a bit more unique and different as opposed to the standard JDM toyota rebadging. I think it was a big mistake for the 86 to hit North America with Scion branding.

Some history for those that aren't aware:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Soarer

Kuzuri · 10-11-2012, 03:09 AM

no.

TuxedoCartman · 10-11-2012, 03:47 AM

Seconded... no.

Putting Toyota emblems or GT86 badges on a Scion FR-S is one thing, but this? This is like putting a GTR badge on your 240SX... they're not, and have never been, the same car.

jmaryt · 10-11-2012, 04:10 AM

no! don't do nothin' for me! sorry!

alex86 · 10-11-2012, 06:29 AM

no.

replace it with toyota

DIM · 10-11-2012, 06:54 AM

No, the Soarer and GT86/FR-S don't even relate.

oldpueblo · 10-11-2012, 06:58 AM

I'd almost like to do something off the wall to add a bit of uniqueness, not just another car badge. Like something from here:

http://www.chromeemblems.com/

miodculae · 10-11-2012, 06:58 AM

if this dude can wrap his ride in fur, you can put a little badge on yours.

Ny Brz · 10-11-2012, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miodculae

if this dude can wrap his ride in fur, you can put a little badge on yours.

If I saw that thing coming down the street I would probably crash due to laughing to hard.

winter · 10-11-2012, 07:08 AM

Do what makes you happy. It's your car.

kanundrum · 10-11-2012, 07:11 AM

There should only be one Griffin Badge and it goes on a Saab

CaptainSlow · 10-11-2012, 07:18 AM

I'm in the "no" camp.

A normal conversation would go as follows:

"Hey, sweet car...what is that?"
"It's an FR-S"
"Oh really? Who makes that? I don't recognize that emblem"
"Scion actually makes it, but that's a Toyota Soarer badge...thought it would look cool, you know?"
"Ah.....ಠ_ಠ"

Repeat x 1000

Khalis · 10-11-2012, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainSlow

I'm in the "no" camp.

A normal conversation would go as follows:

"Hey, sweet car...what is that?"
"It's an FR-S"
"Oh really? Who makes that? I don't recognize that emblem"
"Scion actually makes it, but that's a Toyota Soarer badge...thought it would look cool, you know?"
"Ah.....ಠ_ಠ"

Repeat x 1000

I have plenty of conversations like that:

Random Person: *Notices my car with a Toyota embelm* Hey nice car! What model is this?
Me: Thanks! It's a Toyota 86!
Random Person: It's from 1986?
Me: No, its called the 86 in other parts of the world, here it's called...
Random Person: *Looks at Scion badge on my steering wheel*

OH IT'S A SCION!
Me: *Sigh* Yes, it's a Scion.

Ingen · 10-11-2012, 08:09 AM

OK, I can't contain myself any more and I have to ask...

What's wrong with it being a Scion? Subaru and Toyota probably have an agreement to not compete in the US market, and the easiest way to avoid competition is to have different trim levels for different brands. The techies are going to go Subaru because it offers the options, and the bare-bones people who want the car for what it is (younger people) are going to go with the Toyota. No competition, see?

Selling a stripped-down version of the 86 makes more sense for Toyota's enthusiast brand Scion than it does for Toyota itself, where people expect bland cars with a million techno-features. I really don't understand this big push to re-badge your car as a Toyota 86. Quite frankly, you'd have an easier time with a Subaru since the 86 is much more luxury than the FR-S anyway.

That said, I can't wait for my FR-S to get here and I'm going to leave every scion badge in place. Why not help the brand get off the ground? They need a halo car for the TC driving set to look up to.

10-11-2012, 03:08 AM	#1
cyrus Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS White Out Location: North Carolina Posts: 22 Thanks: 5 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Griffen Badge I just wanted to get some opinions on replacing the front scion badge with the following emblem: What's your take on this mod and do you think it'll look good? I wanted to go with something a bit more unique and different as opposed to the standard JDM toyota rebadging. I think it was a big mistake for the 86 to hit North America with Scion branding. Some history for those that aren't aware: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Soarer

10-11-2012, 06:54 AM	#6
DIM Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: San Antonio TX / Dyess AFB Posts: 948 Thanks: 26 Thanked 451 Times in 242 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	No, the Soarer and GT86/FR-S don't even relate. __________________

10-11-2012, 07:11 AM	#11
kanundrum Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 Whiteout FR-S Location: Laurel, MD Posts: 5,364 Thanks: 2,704 Thanked 3,016 Times in 1,711 Posts Mentioned: 106 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	There should only be one Griffin Badge and it goes on a Saab __________________ Ive spent most of my life racing... The rest I just wasted

10-11-2012, 07:18 AM	#12
CaptainSlow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Mid-Michigan Posts: 799 Thanks: 392 Thanked 388 Times in 180 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm in the "no" camp. A normal conversation would go as follows: "Hey, sweet car...what is that?" "It's an FR-S" "Oh really? Who makes that? I don't recognize that emblem" "Scion actually makes it, but that's a Toyota Soarer badge...thought it would look cool, you know?" "Ah.....ಠ_ಠ" Repeat x 1000 __________________ Ultramarine 2013 Scion FR-S 6MT

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10-11-2012, 03:09 AM	#2
Kuzuri __(X)__ Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '11 Legacy, '89 190E, '78 GS1000 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 958 Thanks: 300 Thanked 697 Times in 332 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	no.

10-11-2012, 03:47 AM	#3
TuxedoCartman Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: '13 86 Location: Exiled to Las Vegas Posts: 646 Thanks: 305 Thanked 579 Times in 220 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Seconded... no. Putting Toyota emblems or GT86 badges on a Scion FR-S is one thing, but this? This is like putting a GTR badge on your 240SX... they're not, and have never been, the same car.

10-11-2012, 04:10 AM	#4
jmaryt Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2012 honda civic ex Location: salem,nh. Posts: 1,676 Thanks: 299 Thanked 186 Times in 144 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	no! don't do nothin' for me! sorry!

10-11-2012, 06:29 AM	#5
alex86 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Argento Location: Doha-Qatar Posts: 114 Thanks: 3 Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	no. replace it with toyota

10-11-2012, 06:58 AM	#8
miodculae FRS Adept Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Firestorm FRS Location: NYC Posts: 171 Thanks: 45 Thanked 32 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	if this dude can wrap his ride in fur, you can put a little badge on yours.

10-11-2012, 08:09 AM	#14
Ingen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Ultramarine FR-S 6MT Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 525 Thanks: 349 Thanked 204 Times in 121 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OK, I can't contain myself any more and I have to ask... What's wrong with it being a Scion? Subaru and Toyota probably have an agreement to not compete in the US market, and the easiest way to avoid competition is to have different trim levels for different brands. The techies are going to go Subaru because it offers the options, and the bare-bones people who want the car for what it is (younger people) are going to go with the Toyota. No competition, see? Selling a stripped-down version of the 86 makes more sense for Toyota's enthusiast brand Scion than it does for Toyota itself, where people expect bland cars with a million techno-features. I really don't understand this big push to re-badge your car as a Toyota 86. Quite frankly, you'd have an easier time with a Subaru since the 86 is much more luxury than the FR-S anyway. That said, I can't wait for my FR-S to get here and I'm going to leave every scion badge in place. Why not help the brand get off the ground? They need a halo car for the TC driving set to look up to.

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