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In Manual mode you have full control, you could bounce off the limiter all day in each gear if you wanted to. If you start spam downshifting however it won't go to a gear that will over-rev and will wait a second till you drop speed and rpm. In Sport mode you get that scenario where you gain engine braking rather than an upshift, more so with a tune. You can always grab the paddle out of manual mode before you come to a corner or scenario where you want engine braking and it will hold that gear.
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No butthurt here. I also didn’t denigrate anyone. I just found it comical to suggest that there isn’t any extra driver involvement on a manual. It’s that extra involvement that some of us enjoy. But you are delusional if you think the AT crowed doesn’t ram the AT down our throat and throw insults about how we are ignorant for wanting outdated technology. If I understand correctly you currently own an MT Twin but wish you still had the AT? If so, why? Convenience? |
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One of these days I need to out of curiosity. Can’t see myself jumping ship but just to see how smart it is. Regardless of how smart it is it’s always going to get it wrong from time to time which I suspect would get on my nerves quick. Sure there is manual mode but if your driving around in manual mode all the time then you may as well get a MT. In a perfect world it would be nice to have a true manual with three pedals that could be shifted automatically in those rare cases where you want to be lazy. The old BMW SMG was a true manual box that was driven automatically but didn’t have the third pedal or shifter for manual operation. |
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You should try one and make sure you drive it hard, preferably on a track, if you get a chance. I'd like to hear your thoughts. |
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I use Manual Mode now if I'm doing anything but crawling in traffic. |
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It is "smart". A few days ago, mine downshifted to help in aggressive braking while in Sport mode, It startled me! I almost never drive in sport mode though.
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Yeah, I'm really confused by your comments on this. Keeping it in normal auto mode all the time is a little boring. With a car like this, why not have a little fun, even outside the racetrack?
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Yeah, like the Back to the Future DeLorean. Not sure if we actually see Marty shift or it's just implied, but we definitely see the clutch pedal at one point, yet the Doc drives it via remote control. I think the FR-S semi-automatic transmission is about as close as we're going to get to that for a while. |
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I suggest you just put that sucker in "D" and enjoy the handling of the car. humfrz |
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Yeah, I'm really confused by your comments on this. Keeping it in normal auto mode all the time is a little boring. With a car like this, why not have a little fun, even outside the racetrack? Did you not read my entire post? Or even anyone elses? You don't need to keep it in manual mode all the time, otherwise what was the purpose of buying the auto? If you're highway cruising from point a to b and just want to relax you keep it in auto. If you want to have fun then switch it to manual mode end of story and that's all I was trying to get at. Never ever said it was track specific either Well you don't need to know what gear it's in when in M either, do you? But I like to know, and I would like to know in D. Sometimes when in D I switch it to M and back just to see what gear it's in. Are you inept? Or just don't understand cars in general? Of course you NEED to know what gear you're in in manual mode because it help you shift and lets you know how much you can downshift pre-emptively. Honestly, What purpose does it serve to know what gear you're in in D? Unless its in sport mode it's always going to go to the highest possible gear unless you floor it for efficiency. Also you gain nothing in sport mode that you don't already get by switching to manual mode. Yeah, I actually use the stick more often, it's just much easier to say or google "paddles" than "the stick for manual shift mode on an AT." I never try using the paddles when turning. If you're keep your hands at 9 and 3 on a track or autox even the paddles are always going to be left hand for down and right hand for up. You also should select the gear and speed you want before the corner, mostly because this transmission isn't a "semi-auto" like a PDK or DSG trans, its a simple torque converter auto.
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