Adequate/Inadequate power for DD on stock BRZ?

[jtice]

Something else to think about, with a "low" HP car.......

Lets say the BRZ, or any other car, had 500HP.
Its gonna haul ass right? Sure, Its gonna throw you back in the seat, its going to add some fun factor to it.
BUT....... would you ever REALLY be able to ring it out? Really use all the revs and run it HARD?
Certainly not on the street.
Dont get me wrong, I would love to have the power to he able to step the ass end out on command easily.
But there are other aspects to driving that are fun.

I know there have to be others like me, and know where I am coming from.
That there is a certain fun factor to being able to completely ring a car out, to really run the piss out of it. Without going a highly illegal or dangerous speed.

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by jtice

Something else to think about, with a "low" HP car.......

Lets say the BRZ, or any other car, had 500HP.
Its gonna haul ass right? Sure, Its gonna throw you back in the seat, its going to add some fun factor to it.
BUT....... would you ever REALLY be able to ring it out? Really use all the revs and run it HARD?
Certainly not on the street.
Dont get me wrong, I would love to have the power to he able to step the ass end out on command easily.
But there are other aspects to driving that are fun.

I know there have to be others like me, and know where I am coming from.
That there is a certain fun factor to being able to completely ring a car out, to really run the piss out of it. Without going a highly illegal or dangerous speed.

They should have used that as a selling pitch...

FR-S/BRZ the car you can have a BLAST in WITHOUT killing yourself!!

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by jtice

Something else to think about, with a "low" HP car.......

Lets say the BRZ, or any other car, had 500HP.
Its gonna haul ass right? Sure, Its gonna throw you back in the seat, its going to add some fun factor to it.
BUT....... would you ever REALLY be able to ring it out? Really use all the revs and run it HARD?
Certainly not on the street.
Dont get me wrong, I would love to have the power to he able to step the ass end out on command easily.
But there are other aspects to driving that are fun.

I know there have to be others like me, and know where I am coming from.
That there is a certain fun factor to being able to completely ring a car out, to really run the piss out of it. Without going a highly illegal or dangerous speed.

This is the main reason why my BRZ is more fun than my 450hp BMW was. I could never really wring it out. In the twins the limits are much more accessible, and I don't have to look around all paranoid after I redline 2nd gear on the street.


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[Rai-zero]

When you have a speedy quick car you hit the speed limit in like 4-5 seconds so your are no longer accelerating you are just driving fast. As we’ve proven the BRZ can drive fast iirc something like 140 MPH. But you can enjoy the experience of acceleration longer with car like BRZ.

Note I’m not saying super slow or anything would be even better. I mean a 99 hp BRZ would not be even better you need a baseline of adequate acceleration probably something on the order of 6-7 seconds to 60 mph is adequate.

I also owned a 1.9L 138hp Z3 but that car was more frustrating being out run by most cars. That car was not light weight like the MX-5 so it couldn’t just make do with a weak engine, it needed more power, was usually 8.2 seconds to 60 mph.

I’m sure there are people to say the 1.9L Z3 was adequate quick but to me was not really enough.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by jtice

Something else to think about, with a "low" HP car.......

Lets say the BRZ, or any other car, had 500HP.
Its gonna haul ass right? Sure, Its gonna throw you back in the seat, its going to add some fun factor to it.
BUT....... would you ever REALLY be able to ring it out? Really use all the revs and run it HARD?
Certainly not on the street.
Dont get me wrong, I would love to have the power to he able to step the ass end out on command easily.
But there are other aspects to driving that are fun.

I know there have to be others like me, and know where I am coming from.
That there is a certain fun factor to being able to completely ring a car out, to really run the piss out of it. Without going a highly illegal or dangerous speed.

The majority are like you. The ones that want massive HP are a minority but they are so vocal they seem like the majority.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by jtice

would you ever REALLY be able to ring it out?

*wring

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

*wring

[Rai-zero]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The majority are like you. The ones that want massive HP are a minority but they are so vocal they seem like the majority.

Plus people usually think they are better at everything than average. I mean the majority of people think they are better than average drivers. The point being more likely you or me are just average drivers. We’re not Chris Harris type or Randy Pobst. So we end up with ass clowns who can’t handle their cars like Mustang drivers leaving cars and coffee.

With a BRZ (IMO) you’re better able to catch the car before you do something stupid.

I’m not any great driver but I’ll still feel my BRZ get a touch slippery at the rear but the tires will scrub for second and that’s the end of it. But with Mustangs you may be having to do a lot more corrections in a lot smaller window. I’d imagine the same with Corvettes or 911s and any bigger hp car out there.

[SCQTT]

Us motorcycle guys say it all the time. It is more fun to go fast on a slow bike than slow on a fast bike.

Most people talk HP, but torque is the part that satisfies.

Personally I would not like this car for city or urban driving and I try to avoid interstates/freeways. I bought it because it is lightweight and "tossable". Low CG and excellent in transitions because of it. It is designed to be low mass at a reasonable price and size. A cheap Lotus that is a little easier to live with because its a little bigger.

If I lived in town and was going to buy a DD in a state with snow I'd buy a WRX. The turbo will give you that satisfying grunt and make it less work to drive. It will be heavy compared to a twin, but it will be easier to live with on a daily basis.......unless you are REALLY addicted to purity of a lightweight, stiff, coupe.

[HKz]

Originally Posted by jtice

Something else to think about, with a "low" HP car.......

Lets say the BRZ, or any other car, had 500HP.
Its gonna haul ass right? Sure, Its gonna throw you back in the seat, its going to add some fun factor to it.
BUT....... would you ever REALLY be able to ring it out? Really use all the revs and run it HARD?
Certainly not on the street.
Dont get me wrong, I would love to have the power to he able to step the ass end out on command easily.
But there are other aspects to driving that are fun.

I know there have to be others like me, and know where I am coming from.
That there is a certain fun factor to being able to completely ring a car out, to really run the piss out of it. Without going a highly illegal or dangerous speed.

of course this is the most logical mentality but many, if not most, "enthusiasts" will never admit this...they will always claim they need the fastest, biggest, strongest, etc. I'm fine with that though, I love watching YT clips of people pulling the biggest fails in their Mustangs & Corvettes

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by jtice

Something else to think about, with a "low" HP car.......

Lets say the BRZ, or any other car, had 500HP.
Its gonna haul ass right? Sure, Its gonna throw you back in the seat, its going to add some fun factor to it.
BUT....... would you ever REALLY be able to ring it out? Really use all the revs and run it HARD?
Certainly not on the street.
Dont get me wrong, I would love to have the power to he able to step the ass end out on command easily.
But there are other aspects to driving that are fun.

I know there have to be others like me, and know where I am coming from.
That there is a certain fun factor to being able to completely ring a car out, to really run the piss out of it. Without going a highly illegal or dangerous speed.

If I had a Corvette, or a 911, or a ??? I would have to spend most of my driving time NOT doing what the car is good at doing. That is, I'd have to WORK at "driving a fast car slow." With the BRZ I can spend far more driving time DOING what the car is good at doing (within pretty broad limits). That is, I can ENJOY "driving a slow(er) car fast(ish)."

[JustSomeGuy]

mines a 2014 and its stock and honestly i thought about wanting more power cause to me it seemed fun but for the type of driving i do (98% highway all year round) it wasnt worth the thousands in turbo/supercharger then the troubles of installing and maintaining it. its perfectly fine for DD, just dont try to race anyone from a dead stop lol. the most i would do is header and tune for powerwise but even then its a lovely car to drive. it can handle all conditions just as good or better than other cars out there so weather isnt an issue, just get proper winter tires for winter and youll be fine.

[Summerwolf]

Never understood the "drive something slow fast rather than something fast slow" mentality.

I have always enjoyed driving a fast car no matter what I was doing with it, even just commuting at 70 mph on cruise.

That applied to my sport bikes as well.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Never understood the "drive something slow fast rather than something fast slow" mentality.

I have always enjoyed driving a fast car no matter what I was doing with it, even just commuting at 70 mph on cruise.

That applied to my sport bikes as well.

How does cruising in a fast car at 70 differentiate from driving a slow one at 70?
The only time a fast car is faster than anything else is when it is accelerating.