follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine Swaps

Engine Swaps Discussion of engine swaps.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-07-2018, 07:47 PM   #71
Ashikabi
Senior Member
 
Ashikabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Northwest Iowa
Posts: 6,580
Thanks: 432
Thanked 4,104 Times in 2,659 Posts
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 5 Thread(s)
Alright, goodish news on headers. JBA headers for the 04-06 GTO fit... Mostly. Physically mount just fine. There is spark plug interference on the passenger side. Also, the flanges kinda point towards the subframe. I think there is enough clearance for the exhaust guy to make it work. You have about 4 inches linear distance between the flange and the subframe to make something happen. Should be fine
Ashikabi is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Ashikabi For This Useful Post:
eastendraceshop (11-07-2018), ILLSMOQ (11-07-2018), Lonewolf (11-10-2018)
Old 11-07-2018, 09:27 PM   #72
eastendraceshop
 
eastendraceshop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Drives: '13 Scion FR-S & '17 Toyota 86
Location: Chino, CA
Posts: 802
Thanks: 406
Thanked 221 Times in 161 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
[QUOTE=Ashikabi;3153134]Alright, goodish news on headers. JBA headers for the 04-06 GTO fit... Mostly. Physically mount just fine. There is spark plug interference on the passenger side. Also, the flanges kinda point towards the subframe. I think there is enough clearance for the exhaust guy to make it work. You have about 4 inches linear distance between the flange and the subframe to make something happen. Should be fine

Can't wait to see the end product!!!!
eastendraceshop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2018, 10:22 PM   #73
Ashikabi
Senior Member
 
Ashikabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Northwest Iowa
Posts: 6,580
Thanks: 432
Thanked 4,104 Times in 2,659 Posts
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 5 Thread(s)
Hey, @ILLSMOQ , did you use a relay and new wiring for your Spal fans?
Ashikabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2018, 10:32 PM   #74
ILLSMOQ
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Drives: 2017 WR BLUE BRZ
Location: San Jose
Posts: 623
Thanks: 601
Thanked 489 Times in 246 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashikabi View Post
Hey, @ILLSMOQ , did you use a relay and new wiring for your Spal fans?
I used these fans

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...2043/overview/

And this relay kit triggered by the factory wiring

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cir-33-10220

Works great.

Not sure if the factory wiring can support these fans, didnít want to chance it.
ILLSMOQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2018, 10:37 PM   #75
Ashikabi
Senior Member
 
Ashikabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Northwest Iowa
Posts: 6,580
Thanks: 432
Thanked 4,104 Times in 2,659 Posts
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 5 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILLSMOQ View Post
I used these fans

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...2043/overview/

And this relay kit triggered by the factory wiring

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cir-33-10220

Works great.

Not sure if the factory wiring can support these fans, didnít want to chance it.
That's what I was thinking.

That wiring kit send kinda pricey for a couple relays, no?
Ashikabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2018, 12:49 AM   #76
Sportsguy83
I Love custom Turbo kits
 
Sportsguy83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Limited BRZ
Location: Miami
Posts: 10,745
Thanks: 19,974
Thanked 8,297 Times in 4,347 Posts
Mentioned: 437 Post(s)
Tagged: 12 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashikabi View Post
That's what I was thinking.

That wiring kit send kinda pricey for a couple relays, no?
I had the slim fans from Fullblown. Asked around, @ILLSMOQ helped me tremendously along the way. Ended up getting these

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/spu-ix-30102029

They're the same bolt pattern as the super slim included on the FBM kit, but pull 40% more air each.

I used the stock wiring, but needed to raise the fuse amp on both to the next rating, from factory 25A to 30A this was suggested by other owners who had raised the fuse and had been running it for years (they do trip the 25A fuse, but are fine on the 30A). So far so good. The relay kit @ILLSMOQ used has the advantage of already having the correct spal connectors, higher amp in line fuse and bigger wire.
Sportsguy83 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Sportsguy83 For This Useful Post:
ILLSMOQ (11-08-2018)
Old 11-08-2018, 07:42 AM   #77
Ashikabi
Senior Member
 
Ashikabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Northwest Iowa
Posts: 6,580
Thanks: 432
Thanked 4,104 Times in 2,659 Posts
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 5 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 View Post
I had the slim fans from Fullblown. Asked around, @ILLSMOQ helped me tremendously along the way. Ended up getting these

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/spu-ix-30102029

They're the same bolt pattern as the super slim included on the FBM kit, but pull 40% more air each.

I used the stock wiring, but needed to raise the fuse amp on both to the next rating, from factory 25A to 30A this was suggested by other owners who had raised the fuse and had been running it for years (they do trip the 25A fuse, but are fine on the 30A). So far so good. The relay kit @ILLSMOQ used has the advantage of already having the correct spal connectors, higher amp in line fuse and bigger wire.
Did you guys need the slimmer fans or did you have extra clearance? Are the fans the same thickness all the way across or taller at the motor? Obviously the interference area is at the crank pulley so taller motors wouldn't matter
Ashikabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2018, 09:10 AM   #78
Sportsguy83
I Love custom Turbo kits
 
Sportsguy83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Limited BRZ
Location: Miami
Posts: 10,745
Thanks: 19,974
Thanked 8,297 Times in 4,347 Posts
Mentioned: 437 Post(s)
Tagged: 12 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashikabi View Post
Did you guys need the slimmer fans or did you have extra clearance? Are the fans the same thickness all the way across or taller at the motor? Obviously the interference area is at the crank pulley so taller motors wouldn't matter


I had clearance, but it would have been extra close with the stock fans. These fans are the exact same as the slim fans provided by FBM, the only difference is the taller motor.
Sportsguy83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2018, 09:19 AM   #79
Ashikabi
Senior Member
 
Ashikabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Northwest Iowa
Posts: 6,580
Thanks: 432
Thanked 4,104 Times in 2,659 Posts
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 5 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 View Post
I had clearance, but it would have been extra close with the stock fans. These fans are the exact same as the slim fans provided by FBM, the only difference is the taller motor.
I'm not looking to use stock but the taller fans are definitely cheaper. If I can achieve the same result for less, I'm all for it
Ashikabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2018, 11:55 PM   #80
Sportsguy83
I Love custom Turbo kits
 
Sportsguy83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Limited BRZ
Location: Miami
Posts: 10,745
Thanks: 19,974
Thanked 8,297 Times in 4,347 Posts
Mentioned: 437 Post(s)
Tagged: 12 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashikabi View Post
I'm not looking to use stock but the taller fans are definitely cheaper. If I can achieve the same result for less, I'm all for it
When you say taller, you mean the fan motor height, how far the fan motor goes into the engine?
Sportsguy83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2018, 12:00 AM   #81
Ashikabi
Senior Member
 
Ashikabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Northwest Iowa
Posts: 6,580
Thanks: 432
Thanked 4,104 Times in 2,659 Posts
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 5 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 View Post
When you say taller, you mean the fan motor height, how far the fan motor goes into the engine?
Correct. Obviously the radiator dictates the other dimensions. I suppose "depth" would be the proper term though
Ashikabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2018, 01:19 AM   #82
Sportsguy83
I Love custom Turbo kits
 
Sportsguy83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Limited BRZ
Location: Miami
Posts: 10,745
Thanks: 19,974
Thanked 8,297 Times in 4,347 Posts
Mentioned: 437 Post(s)
Tagged: 12 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashikabi View Post
Correct. Obviously the radiator dictates the other dimensions. I suppose "depth" would be the proper term though


I still have room with the ďtaller/more depthĒ fans, meaning I believe thereís more rom to fit an even larger fan. I didnít go any bigger because then Iíd need a different shroud or modify this one and would definitely need the a larger fuse relay kit. Iíll try to remember and take a picture tomorrow. On the passenger side I had to modify my initial radiator hose because it was on the way.
Sportsguy83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2018, 01:27 AM   #83
Ashikabi
Senior Member
 
Ashikabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Northwest Iowa
Posts: 6,580
Thanks: 432
Thanked 4,104 Times in 2,659 Posts
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 5 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 View Post
I still have room with the ďtaller/more depthĒ fans, meaning I believe thereís more rom to fit an even larger fan. I didnít go any bigger because then Iíd need a different shroud or modify this one and would definitely need the a larger fuse relay kit. Iíll try to remember and take a picture tomorrow. On the passenger side I had to modify my initial radiator hose because it was on the way.
That was the only place I saw that might interfere. I went full AN hoses so I'm not sure what I can do if it doesn't fit...
Ashikabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2018, 09:18 PM   #84
Sportsguy83
I Love custom Turbo kits
 
Sportsguy83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Limited BRZ
Location: Miami
Posts: 10,745
Thanks: 19,974
Thanked 8,297 Times in 4,347 Posts
Mentioned: 437 Post(s)
Tagged: 12 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashikabi View Post
That was the only place I saw that might interfere. I went full AN hoses so I'm not sure what I can do if it doesn't fit...
@ILLSMOQ also has AN hoses, so his setup might be a good example for yours. He has a few pictures of it I'm sure.
Sportsguy83 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.