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I'm definitely getting one | 32 | 12.17% | |
I might get one if they offer a MT | 100 | 38.02% | |
No, not me. | 131 | 49.81% | |
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06-07-2019, 05:00 PM | #1261 |
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Overall length Supra - 172.5" 86 - 168.8" Overall Width Supra - 73" 86 - 69.9" |
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Seriously, the engine is much longer than the FA20 so 4" of length is not 'more space' than the 86 has and we're going from 7" wide wheels to 9"/10" so that's 6" of wheel width added in the back, 4" in the front. |
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NITRO YELLOW FTW!!!!!
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Yellow was pretty. Downshift Blue was surprisingly good in person too. But still my fav is Phantom Grey.
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Have a look at the Supra's bare chassis and drivetrain
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/hav...ivetrain.1849/
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It could be the best value 2 door, 2 seater BMW in Australia.......
The Zupra GT is $94k and the GTS is $104k. I wonder in Nissan drop something on us? There was something in the wind a while ago IRT a boosted Z. That would give the BMW some serious competition.
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Anyway, the importance of the topic here is that when comparing Supra, M2, Cayman is to keep in mind that Cayman is a 4 cylinder engine. For some this might be worse (more cylinders better right?), for others that are worrying also about consumption in ordinary driving situations it might be good. That's all! |
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The suspension of the Supra is softer comparing to the one of the Z4. This is a bit weird. Someone would expect the suspension of the convertible to be more comfortable and the suspension of the coupe to be more hardcore and to the limit. This is certainly something that will be addressed by the tuners! They are already working on it.
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------ Again, have you seen the dynos from any other performance cars out there with a 2.0T or 2.5T, or is the Cayman your only example? If you haven't then check out the Focus RS, Golf R, Civic Type R, STI, Evos, Lexus, Jaguar, anything. Have you seen how much power can be had from a tune or basic bolt ons and upping the boost? I'm with @abraxis, any motor can be underrated from the factory and get the boost turned up. Here is a 2015 WRX [$25k car (not the STI)] with a FA20DIT making 344wtq and 313whp with a tune and a few bolt ons: https://www.cobbtuning.com/2015_wrx_tuning_results/ Here is a 2007 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR FQ-360, which came from the factory with 366hp and 363tq from a 2.0T in, again, 2007, from again, Mitsubishi. I like this line: "By comparison, the Porsche 911 Carrera 4S, which costs almost twice as much, takes 0.9 seconds longer to reach 60mph from rest." https://www.topspeed.com/cars/mitsub...0-ar18927.html Can you actually give any evidence for this statement? Quote:
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Take an example from another type of motorsports--Motogp (I know. Motorcycles again, but try to follow because the same principles apply). They learned that they couldn't just keep making the chassis stiffer because in a lean, where the vertical suspension was negated, it was necessary to have chassis flex. Similarly, if the Supra had stiff suspension and a stiff chassis then the car would be bouncing down the road, so something had to give. In their case, a stiffer chassis with softer, adjustable suspension is the better setup than the Z4's softer chassis and stiffer suspension, yet the Z4's hands were tied in this situation. https://www.cycleworld.com/2015/10/1...g-races#page-2
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Lol. It is that simple. If you can mention some other interesting modern 2.0lt 4 cylinder factory spec engine apart from Honda (we said this one is nice) please do! Maybe I am missing some interesting engine . And all this discussion is within the topic. BMW & Toyota were saying they were targeting to make a competitor of the Porsche Boxster/Cayman. Quote:
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And it isn't a night and day difference when those cars compete in relative price markets, and then you compare a Porsche to an engine in a $25k car...??? Just because they don't make it doesn't mean they can't. They probably don't because it might cost more than $25k. Quote:
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Regardless, I believe the Supra has a stiffer chassis than the Z4, so it can afford a softer suspension (who knows if the adaptive suspension was modified in all these reviews to its softest or stiffest setting), which can give a false feeling that the total package is softer (chassis + suspension, like you said); maybe it absorbs bumps better than the Z4 and that was the difference, but overall still has a stiffer package (chassis + suspension). It is hard to know empirically from reviews.
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