SC Kit for reliability (Jackson vs HKS) - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

imprezive · 04-26-2020, 11:22 PM

Daily driver + occasional AutoX + potenial very occasional track day (for fun, so probably would only push car to 95% and intersperse some 75%/cool down laps)

Want more HP, but honestly think either kit would be MORE than enough power for me. I really want simplicity and reliability in the FL heat. I'm willing to spend a little extra to invest in proper cooling/engine management, but it seems like every component you add it just increases the potential for failure.

Either kit have better history of reliability, especially in warmer climates?

If I was trying to be EXTRA cautious, would it be possible to use a slightly larger pulley to generate less PSI, but also put a little less heat, wear, and tear on the engine?

Of course, the other possibility would be to put that $5k to work on more NA mods (currently have header, tune, K&N drop-in+perrin intake tube). I just don't think that would get me quite to the power level I'm hoping for.

weederr33 · 04-26-2020, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by imprezive

Daily driver + occasional AutoX + potenial very occasional track day (for fun, so probably would only push car to 95% and intersperse some 75%/cool down laps)

Want more HP, but honestly think either kit would be MORE than enough power for me. I really want simplicity and reliability in the FL heat.

Either kit have better history of reliability, especially in warmer climates?

If I was trying to be EXTRA cautious, would it be possible to use a slightly larger pulley to generate less PSI, but also put a little less heat, wear, and tear on the engine?

Of course, the other possibility would be to put that $5k to work on more NA mods (currently have header, tune, K&N drop-in+perrin intake tube). I just don't think that would get me quite to the power level I'm hoping for.

Jackson Racing by far. Also any sort of technical difficulties and and replacement parts would be easier with JR than HKS.

CSG Mike · 04-27-2020, 09:31 PM

The Jackson Racing kit is more proven.

PM me to order. I can get you set up with everything you need to make it reliable.

HaXx · 04-27-2020, 11:54 PM

^^^ do it, i buy from csg often,

quixeger · 05-12-2020, 08:42 AM

How soon is too soon (mileage)? I’m thinking very similarly to OP about power goals and heat. 6k miles on a 2019 model.

86TOYO2k17 · 05-12-2020, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by quixeger

How soon is too soon (mileage)? I’m thinking very similarly to OP about power goals and heat. 6k miles on a 2019 model.

Never too soon

J1Avs · 05-14-2020, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by quixeger

How soon is too soon (mileage)? I’m thinking very similarly to OP about power goals and heat. 6k miles on a 2019 model.

Did mine within the first 4,000 miles of my 2018 tS. Get it done while the engine is young and healthy, and keep treating it well with regular fluid changes.

Decep · 05-14-2020, 02:49 PM

look into the edelbrock too, there have been a few reports of failed rotrex units on here.

not that the edelbrock is perfect but replacing a bypass valve now and then isnt the end of the world

DarkPira7e · 05-14-2020, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Decep

look into the edelbrock too, there have been a few reports of failed rotrex units on here.

not that the edelbrock is perfect but replacing a bypass valve now and then isnt the end of the world

I think a centrifugal kit works better for stock engine. Reducing the amount of low end torque is critical to prolonging the life of the engine on stock rods

mrg666 · 05-14-2020, 03:31 PM

Don't forget that you will void the powertrain warranty which runs 60 months/60,000 miles. I was out $4500 to replace valve springs with JRSC. I am just pointing this out to make people aware of the additional expenses that can come up. But ... I still don't regret installing supercharger it was worth even $10K expense.

Decep · 05-14-2020, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

I think a centrifugal kit works better for stock engine. Reducing the amount of low end torque is critical to prolonging the life of the engine on stock rods

that's true, but it's pretty easy not to floor it at high loads and at too high a gear. not a big deal.

That bump in mid range torque starting at 2500 rpm is just so, so nice for daily driving.

DarkPira7e · 05-14-2020, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Decep

that's true, but it's pretty easy not to floor it at high loads and at too high a gear. not a big deal.

That bump in mid range torque starting at 2500 rpm is just so, so nice for daily driving.

That bump is mid/low range torque is exactly why it's not easy to avoid flooring it. Unless the driver is highly disciplined of course. Most people aren't and only day they are

Decep · 05-14-2020, 05:41 PM

Fair enough, but if you are dropping absolute minimum 5K on a supercharger, chances are you are an enthusiast and will know better. Unless you're a kid playing with mommy and daddy's money or whatever.

I haven't seen that many instances of bent rods on the 260ish hp power levels you get with these systems (before you go nuts and start adding smaller pullies etc). Nor has my mechanic/tuner fwiw.

MilkyWitness · 05-15-2020, 05:22 AM

What about Jackson Racing vs Edelbrock?

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imprezive Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Drives: 2017 BRZ - WRB - PP Location: FL Posts: 116 Thanks: 75 Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	SC Kit for reliability (Jackson vs HKS) Daily driver + occasional AutoX + potenial very occasional track day (for fun, so probably would only push car to 95% and intersperse some 75%/cool down laps) Want more HP, but honestly think either kit would be MORE than enough power for me. I really want simplicity and reliability in the FL heat. I'm willing to spend a little extra to invest in proper cooling/engine management, but it seems like every component you add it just increases the potential for failure. Either kit have better history of reliability, especially in warmer climates? If I was trying to be EXTRA cautious, would it be possible to use a slightly larger pulley to generate less PSI, but also put a little less heat, wear, and tear on the engine? Of course, the other possibility would be to put that $5k to work on more NA mods (currently have header, tune, K&N drop-in+perrin intake tube). I just don't think that would get me quite to the power level I'm hoping for. Last edited by imprezive; 04-27-2020 at 10:07 AM.

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Decep Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: 2013 FR-S Series 10 Location: CA Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 172 Thanked 497 Times in 326 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	look into the edelbrock too, there have been a few reports of failed rotrex units on here. not that the edelbrock is perfect but replacing a bypass valve now and then isnt the end of the world __________________ 2013 FR-S 10 Series ~75k (SOLD) RCE SS-1 Coilovers Corsa Catback Edelbrock Supercharger installed @ 50k

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Decep Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: 2013 FR-S Series 10 Location: CA Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 172 Thanked 497 Times in 326 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Fair enough, but if you are dropping absolute minimum 5K on a supercharger, chances are you are an enthusiast and will know better. Unless you're a kid playing with mommy and daddy's money or whatever. I haven't seen that many instances of bent rods on the 260ish hp power levels you get with these systems (before you go nuts and start adding smaller pullies etc). Nor has my mechanic/tuner fwiw. __________________ 2013 FR-S 10 Series ~75k (SOLD) RCE SS-1 Coilovers Corsa Catback Edelbrock Supercharger installed @ 50k

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