Edelbrock E-force Owner's thread and FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions)

[ThatAsianBradah]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

The tuner should have known that a new 2017 model car bought in the US
would not have a JDM ecu or calibration unless you had modified it as such beforehand. A JDM ecu installed in a USDM car would get Toyota into a heap of trouble with the feds and all the other smog/safety nazis.

How well do you know this tuner/installer and their familiarity with these vehicles?

My tuner worked on FI systems for this car (2014/15 models), but the supplied tune had to be present. When it comes to custom flashing, they don't "roll that way", but they are working with me on properly flashing the ECU at the very least.

I have options though: Wait for EB to recalibrate their CARB tune and send it to me or I buy Delicious Tuning's calibration and roll with that.

I'm doing the former now (as recommended by my installer) until EB gets back to us with a solution.

[johan]

Originally Posted by ThatAsianBradah

So that also goes for the automatic MY17 twins as well? The only major differences (publicly known) that the MY17s for both 86 and BRZ have are the intake manifold (red) and the intake airbox/tubes.

If anyone can confirm that the autos 17 utilize the same units as previous year models, that'd be INCREDIBLE for R&D building for these new models.

Yes! I have an automatic 17 and I can confirm it has the new alternator design. I put the Harrop SC on my car and that new wire location -just barely- touches the manifold. It almost didn't clear. I wondered wtf Harrop was thinking, now I know I just got lucky. Harrop does fit though!

Attached pic of clearance

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by johan

Yes! I have an automatic 17 and I can confirm it has the new alternator design. I put the Harrop SC on my car and that new wire location -just barely- touches the manifold. It almost didn't clear. I wondered wtf Harrop was thinking, now I know I just got lucky. Harrop does fit though!

Attached pic of clearance

Hmmm...that is waaaay too close for comfort though

[ThatAsianBradah]

Originally Posted by johan

Yes! I have an automatic 17 and I can confirm it has the new alternator design. I put the Harrop SC on my car and that new wire location -just barely- touches the manifold. It almost didn't clear. I wondered wtf Harrop was thinking, now I know I just got lucky. Harrop does fit though!

Attached pic of clearance

Wow! It's good to know that with the MY17s going forward that a lot of these FI kits may need some tweaking in order to fit properly. I was able to get the EBSC to work around the new alternator design thankfully. All that's left is the darned ECU! Still waiting for word back from EB on their tune.

[colushi808]

Originally Posted by ThatAsianBradah

Wow! It's good to know that with the MY17s going forward that a lot of these FI kits may need some tweaking in order to fit properly. I was able to get the EBSC to work around the new alternator design thankfully. All that's left is the darned ECU! Still waiting for word back from EB on their tune.

Hope EB releases a regular non CARB tune first like how they did in the beginning. If not, might be waiting for a while until they go through the process of getting it approved.

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[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ThatAsianBradah

So that also goes for the automatic MY17 twins as well? The only major differences (publicly known) that the MY17s for both 86 and BRZ have are the intake manifold (red) and the intake airbox/tubes.

If anyone can confirm that the autos 17 utilize the same units as previous year models, that'd be INCREDIBLE for R&D building for these new models.

Confirmed, all 17's have the new alternator. I confirmed it personally.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ThatAsianBradah

Wow! It's good to know that with the MY17s going forward that a lot of these FI kits may need some tweaking in order to fit properly. I was able to get the EBSC to work around the new alternator design thankfully. All that's left is the darned ECU! Still waiting for word back from EB on their tune.

What exactly did you do to get the clearance you need?

[brzaapi]

Originally Posted by ThatAsianBradah

I was able to get the EBSC to work around the new alternator design thankfully.

What exactly did you do to get the clearance you need?



THIS!!!! , and if it is your shop that figured it out, please share contact info so I may drive them crazy, I mean.....make my EBSC fit too.

[Uplink]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Confirmed, all 17's have the new alternator. I confirmed it personally.

Out of curiosity, does/will the new design alternator supercede the old one? ie, if your '13-'16 has a faulty alternator and you get it replaced, will the dealership install the new version?

If so, this could be something older model owners need to be aware of.

[driggity]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

Hmmm...that is waaaay too close for comfort though

Yeah, I would be very worried about that wire rubbing on the supercharger.

Originally Posted by Uplink

Out of curiosity, does/will the new design alternator supercede the old one? ie, if your '13-'16 has a faulty alternator and you get it replaced, will the dealership install the new version?

If so, this could be something older model owners need to be aware of.

Since the connector on the control cable is different I doubt they would since it would require changing part of the wiring harness as well as the alternator. But weirder things have happened.

[johan]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

Hmmm...that is waaaay too close for comfort though

Originally Posted by driggity

Yeah, I would be very worried about that wire rubbing on the supercharger.

I've been keeping an eye on it, it doesn't seem to be affecting the wire. I've even been to the track a couple times.

That said, if I ever take the blower off for some reason (service? idk)... I'll be filing down the edge of the manifold right there to get some additional clearance. If I had realized it was that close before we'd gotten everything settled, I would have filed it down before finishing the install. Getting the blower in place though was enough of a PITA that by the time that it "fit", it wasn't coming off.

[ThatAsianBradah]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

What exactly did you do to get the clearance you need?

My installer said, "The alternator had to be modified a bit by removing the clip for the regulator and bending the pin to clear."

No pictures on that, but you can imagine how it went

[Uplink]

Originally Posted by driggity

Yeah, I would be very worried about that wire rubbing on the supercharger.





Since the connector on the control cable is different I doubt they would since it would require changing part of the wiring harness as well as the alternator. But weirder things have happened.

Didn't catch that. Sounds like we'll be safe then, thanks!

[brzaapi]

Originally Posted by ThatAsianBradah

My installer said, "The alternator had to be modified a bit by removing the clip for the regulator and bending the pin to clear."

No pictures on that, but you can imagine how it went

Well, I suppose I could bend the pin carefully. But do you know if when the clip was removed, did they hardwire the wire to the alternator or use a low profile type connector. Just curious, as I will likely try to modify my own and don't want to mess it up.