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Old 09-05-2017, 07:32 AM   #29
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Front & rear jacking points then harbor freight jack stands on the pinch welds. No issues for 2 years now


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Old 09-05-2017, 02:02 PM   #30
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I just use these if jacking up one side at a time:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Areyoursh...Weld/165705821



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When you jack up from the center, how do you support your car once you remove the jack? God help you if you're getting under the car with just the jack supporting the car. If you''re just putting jack stands directly on the welds, one day, those welds will fold, and you better pray the car doesn't slip off the stand.
Easy.

https://www.harborfreight.com/rubber...-pc-63373.html
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When I bought "Blue" I also ordered four Esco Jack stands. They come with flat rubber platforms that cushion the pinch welds. They also make for a REALLY stable platform when working under the car.

https://www.amazon.com/ESCO-10498-Ja...co+jack+stands
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Yea, that doesn't do anything. Do you see how the weight is still on the pinch weld? Compare that V with the factory jack, which spreads the load onto the unibody on either side of the seam.
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Yea, that doesn't do anything. Do you see how the weight is still on the pinch weld? Compare that V with the factory jack, which spreads the load onto the unibody on either side of the seam.
Cool story bro.
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It's really not made for a floor jack there, IMHO. I jack from the front and rear and made these.

So, I've considered making something like that, and I determined that I would be more worried about the car tipping forward on the pucks. That's a lot of vertical lever arm for a short lateral distance to tip. Though maybe the picture angle is deceptive.
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So, I've considered making something like that, and I determined that I would be more worried about the car tipping forward on the pucks. That's a lot of vertical lever arm for a short lateral distance to tip. Though maybe the picture angle is deceptive.
I get you but once the weight of the car is on it, believe me. It's solid as a rock on a rubber mat. Squishes way out.
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Cool story bro.
This is how people respond when they are proven to be wrong.
Do you understand that those V adapters do absolutely nothing ?
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This is how people respond when they are proven to be wrong.
Do you understand that those V adapters do absolutely nothing ?
You do understand that the rubber pads are flexible enough that they give at the weld and disperse the weight across the whole surface right?
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This is how people respond when they are proven to be wrong.
Do you understand that those V adapters do absolutely nothing ?
Yes they do absolutely nothing.

I used it for 3+ years on my car, wrenching on it almost every weekend because I was running the car "safely" at the track without "abusing" it at 3000-6000RPMs and the pads totally fucked up my pinch welds.

Here's a fact for you: I used it for 3 years and it never bent the pinch welds. About the only thing it did was start stripping the paint due to excessive use.

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I've been using Esco jackstands and they work great. No damage to the pinch welds. If you're really worried, you can even slot a hockey puck and place them on top (although I haven't found a need to).

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I get you but once the weight of the car is on it, believe me. It's solid as a rock on a rubber mat. Squishes way out.
Good to know. Maybe I'll try it if my pinch welds start to rust . Or if I decide to be less lazy.

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Good to know. Maybe I'll try it if my pinch welds start to rust . Or if I decide to be less lazy.

I'm confident in my custom creation but I know they won't last forever. Rather than taking another two hours to make new ones, I think I'll put a set of those Esco stands onto my Christmas list. I especially like the three-legged construction and the wide pad will come in handy for other spots.

The main issue with bending the pinch weld comes from lifting at that single point with a device that pulls out away at an angle as the chassis is lifted. I wouldn't think twice about in gently resting both sides onto those stands.

Thanks, @Capt Spaulding and @DarkSunrise, for suggesting those.
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Yes they do absolutely nothing.

Here's a fact for you: I used it for 3 years and it never bent the pinch welds. About the only thing it did was start stripping the paint due to excessive use.

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Just because they didn't bend, it doesn't mean the V jackstands did anything. All the weight is still on the weld, genius.
You might as well just use flat jackstands. Same thing.
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