How durable are Michelin Pilot Super Sport on the track? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Ferrari · 08-20-2014, 02:11 PM

I have a stock BRZ with Michelin Pilot Super Sports on stock rims. I'm going to attend a track day, and I'm wondering how durable the PSSs are on the track. This is my daily driven car and the tires are superb on the street, and I don't want to destroy them in one day on the track.

Does anyone have any experience with these tires? Thanks!

Lebby83 · 08-20-2014, 02:36 PM

I have these tires on my Cayman S and my track wheels for my BRZ. I have put over 6k miles with them on the Cayman, of that 500-700 miles are track miles. And I drove to and from Texas from PA. Still have tread left. I have 1,600 miles on the ones on the BRZ, about 300 track miles... no issues. Great tires. You should be fine. Especially if you are a beginner, you won't be pushing the car very hard.

CSG David · 08-20-2014, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferrari

I have a stock BRZ with Michelin Pilot Super Sports on stock rims. I'm going to attend a track day, and I'm wondering how durable the PSSs are on the track. This is my daily driven car and the tires are superb on the street, and I don't want to destroy them in one day on the track.

Does anyone have any experience with these tires? Thanks!

You will be fine. If you over drive them, then you will possibly chunk them, but it's all driver induced, not a problem with the tire.

Estey · 08-20-2014, 04:57 PM

If anything you'll be able to get your tires pro rated if the tread life doesn't last too long

Ferrari · 08-20-2014, 07:05 PM

Thanks for the info, guys!

mkivsoopra · 08-20-2014, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David

You will be fine. If you over drive them, then you will possibly chunk them, but it's all driver induced, not a problem with the tire.

Oops, I guess I over drove mine... they chunked after 5 track days

245/35-18 x 4

CSG David · 08-20-2014, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mkivsoopra

Oops, I guess I over drove mine... they chunked after 5 track days

245/35-18 x 4

You chunked 245 tires?...time to go to the red box bro. Cool that driving down.

mkivsoopra · 08-21-2014, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG David

You chunked 245 tires?...time to go to the red box bro. Cool that driving down.

But..... @RehabJeff86 kept saying more gas more gas!

Jk... Not sure why.. I wasn't really driving that hard (very little slip, traction control in sport mode with low intervention), and hardly ever going WOT!

RehabJeff86 · 08-21-2014, 02:45 AM

Dont think mkivsoopra overdriven those tires, more like peeled off from understeering

BTW, dont think MPSS are good track tires...
@CSG David keep sending those invoice to @mkivsoopra

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DarkSunrise · 08-21-2014, 08:36 AM

I think on lighter cars like our's, they're fine as mentioned.

I've seen them chunk pretty badly, but only on heavier cars (335i, TT-RS, etc.)

Pete156 · 08-21-2014, 10:06 AM

Very durable tires

dradernh · 08-21-2014, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

Dont think mkivsoopra overdriven those tires, more like peeled off from understeering

That was my guess when he said he wasn't leaning on the car very hard. Fortunately, that's easy to fix.

ZionsWrath · 08-21-2014, 11:55 AM

I think it does depend on your driving.

As a driver you need to adapt to and drive with what you have.

You can't drive your car like a race setup if it has stock alignment with stock tires. You will chunk them.

I learned this after I did a session and initially thought the OEM tires were giving up. But I sat down and took a good hard look at what I was doing and realized I was just trying to drive them too hard. Getting on the throttle to early in corners especially.

Try to do some laps with minimal tire squeal (and traction intervention if you have it on, oversteer if you have it off). You will see it helps you get smoother.

Take what I have to say with a grain of salt, I only started tracking this year.

08-20-2014, 02:11 PM	#1
Ferrari Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: Taking the bus Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 66 Thanks: 5 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How durable are Michelin Pilot Super Sport on the track? I have a stock BRZ with Michelin Pilot Super Sports on stock rims. I'm going to attend a track day, and I'm wondering how durable the PSSs are on the track. This is my daily driven car and the tires are superb on the street, and I don't want to destroy them in one day on the track. Does anyone have any experience with these tires? Thanks!

08-21-2014, 02:45 AM	#9
RehabJeff86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 WhiteOut FR-S Location: Dublin,CA Posts: 969 Thanks: 899 Thanked 492 Times in 306 Posts Mentioned: 67 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	How durable are Michelin Pilot Super Sport on the track? Dont think mkivsoopra overdriven those tires, more like peeled off from understeering BTW, dont think MPSS are good track tires... @CSG David keep sending those invoice to @mkivsoopra Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkfQ __________________ 2013 Scion FR-S whiteout 2012 Porsche Panamera S carbon grey 2008 Range Rover Sport SS black - sold 2004 BMW M3 alpine wies - sold

08-21-2014, 08:36 AM	#10
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,794 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I think on lighter cars like our's, they're fine as mentioned. I've seen them chunk pretty badly, but only on heavier cars (335i, TT-RS, etc.) __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

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ZionsWrath Thanks Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 4,163 Thanks: 5,989 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,498 Posts Mentioned: 38 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I think it does depend on your driving. As a driver you need to adapt to and drive with what you have. You can't drive your car like a race setup if it has stock alignment with stock tires. You will chunk them. I learned this after I did a session and initially thought the OEM tires were giving up. But I sat down and took a good hard look at what I was doing and realized I was just trying to drive them too hard. Getting on the throttle to early in corners especially. Try to do some laps with minimal tire squeal (and traction intervention if you have it on, oversteer if you have it off). You will see it helps you get smoother. Take what I have to say with a grain of salt, I only started tracking this year. __________________

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