Lowered on coilovers with camber, front swaybar endlink rubs/binds inner wheel well? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Krovi · 11-15-2015, 06:23 PM

My car is lowered on Tein Mono Sport coilovers and I have a Hotchkis front sway bar, and I've had this problem for a while but I've always kind of been putting it aside without finding a better solution.

Basically what happens is because I need negative camber for increased cornering grip on the track, my strut is pulled too close to the wheel well and my sway bar endlink actually rubs and sometimes binds on the inside.

Has anyone else experienced this and had a solution? I'm using both my coilovers' camber plates and SPC camber bolts to get to around -3 degrees of camber up front.

Here's a little doodle I made on my phone (with my elementary school level drawing skills) to show exactly what happens.

Green is my coilover, orange is the sway bar, blue is the endlink, and the red X is where it hits.

Krovi · 11-16-2015, 09:25 PM

No one?

jawn · 11-16-2015, 09:40 PM

Have you thought about adjustable end links? Are you binding on the control arm?

vroom4 · 11-16-2015, 09:46 PM

What end links do you have?

Dango1 · 11-16-2015, 10:44 PM

Seen this happen once. Coils were installed wrong left/right. Caused too much castor and endlink to make contact. Maybe check that?

solidONE · 11-17-2015, 01:35 AM

3 solutions.

1: raise the front ride height so the endlink has enough clearance when suspension is compressed.

2: run less camber so it has clearance when suspension is compressed

3: chop off the endlink mounting tab on the strut then reposition and weld back on the strut so it has clearance when suspension is compressed

Dango1 · 11-17-2015, 08:20 AM

I've been testing with -4.5 camber up front (overkill) using combination of top hats and camber bolts and I don't have this issue. Check the parts and install.

solidONE · 11-17-2015, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dango1

I've been testing with -4.5 camber up front (overkill) using combination of top hats and camber bolts and I don't have this issue. Check the parts and install.

Do you have Tein mono sport as well?

Dango1 · 11-17-2015, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by solidONE

Do you have Tein mono sport as well?

Nope. I swap between kw v3's and ground control. I also had neo motorsports in the past.

I've run at least -3 with those setups without issue. I don't run very low though. So I don't think your camber should be the problem and you should check your install just in case. If that's not the case I am out of ideas. Sorry.

solidONE · 11-17-2015, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dango1

Nope. I swap between kw v3's and ground control. I also had neo motorsports in the past.

I've run at least -3 with those setups without issue. I don't run very low though. So I don't think your camber should be the problem and you should check your install just in case. If that's not the case I am out of ideas. Sorry.

Why so much camber? At lease we know v3 and ground control will not have clearance problems.

Dango1 · 11-17-2015, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by solidONE

Why so much camber? At lease we know v3 and ground control will not have clearance problems.

Track. I don't have to worry abour daily driving the car. I found I was faster with more camber.

solidONE · 11-18-2015, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dango1

Track. I don't have to worry abour daily driving the car. I found I was faster with more camber.

-4.5 is crazy, but I've seen a forum member's track s2000 with just as much dialed into the front, even with it's double wishbones. What are your spring rates?

Dango1 · 11-19-2015, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by solidONE

-4.5 is crazy, but I've seen a forum member's track s2000 with just as much dialed into the front, even with it's double wishbones. What are your spring rates?

It is crazy. I may dial back a bit next season. I've run spring rates everywhere from stock to 8k. I have been changing a lot to see and feel the effects of chnages.

mav1178 · 11-19-2015, 02:20 AM

I like how OP bumps the thread when we give no direct answer, and when we ask for relevant info such as what type of endlinks, he doesn't reply...

-alex

11-15-2015, 06:23 PM	#1
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11-16-2015, 09:25 PM	#2
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