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Old 09-13-2018, 03:19 PM   #1261
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Did you not hear me yell at you about binding? I saw you guys under the car and it looked like someone was pulling REALLY hard to get the endlink out of the bar. Been there, done that... it's because everything was clamped down to the point that it was all bound. And that made the car evil.
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Old 09-14-2018, 05:24 AM   #1262
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Both. Like... got the endlinks out and tried to grab the bar and rotate it a bit and it didn't move at all. Loosened the bolts on the brackets by about 1/4 turn and the bar moves like it should.
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Old 09-14-2018, 07:24 AM   #1263
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Both. Like... got the endlinks out and tried to grab the bar and rotate it a bit and it didn't move at all. Loosened the bolts on the brackets by about 1/4 turn and the bar moves like it should.
Just from my experience, the Whiteline bar I had prior on the car, the bushings were too large and caused the bar to bind when tightened down. The proper thing to do would be to shave the bushing so it could secure correctly.

I know it's not "spec" but it's a pretty common occurrence on how to make a bar bind
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The bar was moving, don't get me wrong. But it was probably tighter than it should have been. We did the same 1/4 turn and it was a little more free.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:32 AM   #1265
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Anyone want to speculate on what the SSC pax will be next year? .795? .785?
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I think it will likely be between ES and DS.

I think on most courses, I would be faster in an ES car.

Also, if PAX isn't fixed, I'm pretty much out. Locals are 0 fun.
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Just saying, Adam didnít do you guys any favors with helping you out on PAX.

And while Nats isnít totally considered, Iíd think that has to be in the back of Ricks mind.

That and the fact locally, some people have been doing decent enough, might impact you guys negatively


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Bartek still had a faster scratch in ES, in conditions that were debatably comparable.

I do think it is going to be a tough car to PAX. Keep the car in its powerband and have an open course that doesn't force blended inputs and it is probably a second faster than ES. ...but most of the time, ES seems to be right there, if not faster.

edit: Comparing west times, Scroggs ran a 62.4, Bartek ran a 62.2, and Adam ran a 62.6. I don't think there is really anything out there than doesn't put SSC in that neighborhood unless Rick thinks the class is collectively terrible at our 2 adjustments..... or we get a new tire.
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I have a question for those of you that track your SSC car on the Falkens. How much lower are you setting cold pressures for a 20 minute session vs. autocross pressures? Assuming 65 - 75 degree dry weather.
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Just saying, Adam didn’t do you guys any favors with helping you out on PAX.

And while Nats isn’t totally considered, I’d think that has to be in the back of Ricks mind.

That and the fact locally, some people have been doing decent enough, might impact you guys negatively


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Not really. Many of the classes were effected by weather this year at Nats (and he usus multiple regions to calculate), so SSC at Nats appears better on PAX than it really was - and was one of only a handful of classes that ran 2 days in the dry.

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edit: Comparing west times, Scroggs ran a 62.4,
Scroggs wasn't fastest on day 2. Finch had a 62.304. 0.37 is quite a bit of time. I would bet that SSC is softer than both ES and DS.

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Old 09-25-2018, 01:09 PM   #1272
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Oops.

Also fun fact: At our local Sunday, I would have had to have the top door slammer raw time by 7 tenths to win my PAX class.
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I have a question for those of you that track your SSC car on the Falkens. How much lower are you setting cold pressures for a 20 minute session vs. autocross pressures? Assuming 65 - 75 degree dry weather.
I ran Falkens on an STX BRZ at the track and they were pretty happy with a wide range of pressures. I kept them at around 35psi hot and would typically see about 4-6psi gain over a 20min session. I'd start them off in the 26-30psi range cold and bleed between session as necessary (I like my fronts 1-2psi higher than the rears with my setup, so I'd typically start with 27-29psi front and 26-28psi rear).

This was for 255/40-17's on 17x9 wheels, but I would bet the same works for your spec wheel and tire sizes.
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