FRS vs Genesis coupe - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

FrankAR15 · 02-21-2016, 09:06 AM

Just thought I'd share a comparison since my son has an FRS and I have a Genesis 3.8. (Video is compared with the 2.0)

I like both cars, as I had considered the BRZ before purchasing the Genesis. I can tell you I like the interior and ease of entrance/exit better in the Genesis. Exterior styling and handling I like slightly better on the FRS, but the power of the Genesis 3.8 is loads of fun!

FRS vs Genesis
[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gI2snMjBqRE[/ame]

Sons FRS

My Genesis

Teseo · 02-21-2016, 10:51 AM

Clean car mate.

Dream20b · 02-21-2016, 11:29 AM

I had a genesis coupe v6 6mt in 2011, bought it new, was out of that car in sub 6k

JPxM0Dz · 02-21-2016, 01:59 PM

Sorry I couldn't resist

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipb3VBpDvis"]Tokyo Drift Hyundai Diss - YouTube[/ame]

RichardsFRS · 02-23-2016, 12:05 PM

When you compare a turbo, track pack car to a non turbo base 200hp car and the 200hp car stacks up against it; something went wrong in your turbo track pack design

Celica00 · 02-23-2016, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

When you compare a turbo, track pack car to a non turbo base 200hp car and the 200hp car stacks up against it; something went wrong in your turbo track pack design

Yep, the FRS vs Genesis is a good example of shitty chassis vs great chassis. Even the track pack can't make up for it.

Tcoat · 02-23-2016, 02:16 PM

The Genesis was at the top of my short list until I stumbled across the FRS. Contrary to what many may think it wasn't a bad platform at all and actually comes very close to the FRS in the handling department. That is the newer ones mind you I have never driven one of the older gens.

Gonna throw the age old and much disputed disclaimer into the ring though. Here the track pack 3.8 Genesis will cost you about $10K more than a FRS. You can do a lot of shit to a FRS with $10K!

Summerwolf · 02-23-2016, 02:20 PM

I drove a couple new Genesis in 2011, the turbo four cylinder car was awful. Tried out the six cylinder version and quickly passed. I hated the transmission and overall driving position in both, the V6 was "meh" to me in power delivery and the turbo four was pathetic.

I will say this with a disclaimer.... I don't think the FA20's powerband is anything spectacular either....but the car overall is pretty decent.

ajaxthebetter · 02-23-2016, 03:05 PM

I feel like the difference in driveway/background area in the provided photos means something profound when comparing a twin driver/owner to a genesis owner.

FrankAR15 · 02-23-2016, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

When you compare a turbo, track pack car to a non turbo base 200hp car and the 200hp car stacks up against it; something went wrong in your turbo track pack design

I don't want to be labeled a troll, lol. But let's be honest, the 2.0 Genesis did beat the FRS on that track by over 1 second, which is significant. The 3.8 would be no contest.

Now I agree if HP were the same then the FRS would definitely win as the handling is slightly better but I have driven both back to back and it's not by much.

I really do love how the FRS is lower/smaller, but for me being a little older, I have to kind of roll out of it, lol.

raven1231 · 02-23-2016, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The Genesis was at the top of my short list until I stumbled across the FRS. Contrary to what many may think it wasn't a bad platform at all and actually comes very close to the FRS in the handling department. That is the newer ones mind you I have never driven one of the older gens.

Gonna throw the age old and much disputed disclaimer into the ring though. Here the track pack 3.8 Genesis will cost you about $10K more than a FRS. You can do a lot of shit to a FRS with $10K!

Did you drive them back to back? I drove a 2013 genesis and then got into a 2013 frs and there was a very noticeable difference. The only reason I was able to do this is the hyundai dealer had a used frs lol. That is ultimately what made me decide on the frs, it just felt right. That aside the genesis is a whole lot of car for the money.

Cole · 02-23-2016, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The Genesis was at the top of my short list until I stumbled across the FRS. Contrary to what many may think it wasn't a bad platform at all and actually comes very close to the FRS in the handling department. That is the newer ones mind you I have never driven one of the older gens.

Gonna throw the age old and much disputed disclaimer into the ring though. Here the track pack 3.8 Genesis will cost you about $10K more than a FRS. You can do a lot of shit to a FRS with $10K!

Exactly my thoughts, BUT!!! You do get "more car" with the Genesis, ya feel me? But, the Genesis 3.8 R-Spec is 29ishk CAD before taxes and fees. So not a lot. The GT is where the big costs come in

Edit: Comparing the FRS to a Genesis is kind of like a Miata to a Jaguar XK(Whatever the convertible is). Yeah, they're both a coupe (convertible), both have FR layouts, but not exactly in the same class at all.

Second Edit: Looking at what you get for the 29k, I'd be interested in trying it out. I just hate the new body on them compared to the old one

PWBRZ · 02-23-2016, 03:52 PM

I got the chance to drive my friend's Genesis this past weekend and it is a decent handling car but feels a vague and uncommunicative compared to the BRZ/FRS. The extra punch from the V-6 was nice but as tcoat mentioned, the price difference can buy a lot of extra goodies.

ChrisFL · 02-23-2016, 04:26 PM

The Genesis is about 550 pounds heavier than the FR-S....that's a LOT

02-21-2016, 09:06 AM	#1
FrankAR15 Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: 2013 Genesis Track Location: Maryland Posts: 26 Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FRS vs Genesis coupe Just thought I'd share a comparison since my son has an FRS and I have a Genesis 3.8. (Video is compared with the 2.0) I like both cars, as I had considered the BRZ before purchasing the Genesis. I can tell you I like the interior and ease of entrance/exit better in the Genesis. Exterior styling and handling I like slightly better on the FRS, but the power of the Genesis 3.8 is loads of fun! FRS vs Genesis [ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gI2snMjBqRE[/ame] Sons FRS My Genesis Last edited by FrankAR15; 02-21-2016 at 09:18 AM.

02-21-2016, 11:29 AM	#3
Dream20b Y u do dis? Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Northbrook, IL Posts: 465 Thanks: 832 Thanked 194 Times in 107 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I had a genesis coupe v6 6mt in 2011, bought it new, was out of that car in sub 6k __________________ Dat Hot Lava Doe Clearly you have no clue what you are talking about. Everything you said was completely and utterly the ramblings of a babbling idiot regurgitating garbage from his mouth. Everyone here is now dumber from reading your post. Please die now.

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Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,845 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2495 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	The Genesis was at the top of my short list until I stumbled across the FRS. Contrary to what many may think it wasn't a bad platform at all and actually comes very close to the FRS in the handling department. That is the newer ones mind you I have never driven one of the older gens. Gonna throw the age old and much disputed disclaimer into the ring though. Here the track pack 3.8 Genesis will cost you about $10K more than a FRS. You can do a lot of shit to a FRS with $10K! __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

02-23-2016, 04:26 PM	#14
ChrisFL Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2014 FR-S(daily), tC & 3 MR2's prev Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 76 Thanks: 44 Thanked 46 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The Genesis is about 550 pounds heavier than the FR-S....that's a LOT __________________ ║]=(86)=[║

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