FR-S or BRZ on track (a few examples included)

[yargk]

Tsukuba:
1:09.76 86
1:10.83 BRZ

Another Japanese track battle (not sure the track):
Toyota GT-86 – 1:46.0
Subaru BRZ – 1:47.1
MX-5 Fabric Top – 1:48.6

Motor Trend:
1:30.32 BRZ
1:13.15 FR-S

So, what's the deal?

1. Are the FR-S and FT-86 tuned the same?

2. Could the rear tires on the Motor Trend FR-S have been fried? The article mentioned that the BRZ was newer which is why it was a tick slower to 60 (not broken in enough), but newer could also mean tires in better shape....

3. Anyone know of more track tests?

Thanks!

[feldy]

Motor wise yes. Spring wise no. The frs has a differnt tune on that end then the BRZ. But how much I do not know.

[yargk]

So I know that the BRZ and FR-S have different spring and shock choices. What I'm wondering is if the 86 and FR-S have the same springs and shocks...

This is what I've gathered with the BRZ and FR-S differences though:

BRZ: 185 pounds/ inch front and rear spring rate.
FRS: Is "looser" and has a "softer" spring rate, but stiffer shocks.

Conclusion: The FRS might have a softer front rate with the same rear rate. This would explain the balance differences.

This video shows the 86 sliding a bit more, but still being faster. However the Motor Trend article says the FRS is slower for being less stable, that's why I'm wondering if it's tires were done.

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