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Old 12-10-2019, 06:31 PM   #1
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Front strut tower brace?

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Is this the right place to ask this question?


I have been driving a car for 6 years now. Want to make some slight changes. I have added quite a few small changes like tint, splash guard, raceseng shifter knob, center console cover, weathertech floorliner etc. Most are just for look and functionality. The front tower brace would be the 1st mod that is actually kinda performance related.


So my question is that whether you guys can tell any difference after installation on street/highway driving? I am driving daily on 280 of SF bay area. So quite some turns on the highway. My major concern is, of course, whether the added weight of the bar will make it undesirable?


Finally, I plan to pick a good brand bar. So how would you rank the common brands? from ftspeed.com, looks like the carbon fiber Cusco one is the best w.r.t. weight. How does it compare to others? Like aluminum Cusco? is Beatrush a decent brand? Thanks.
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the general censuses is that it's not really needed for street driving. most recommendations for track builds will even recommend to leave the strut brace as a lower priority item, as there's more things that can be done with coilovers/springs, tire compounds, brake compounds, and swaybar differences that will have a much more dramatic effect on the cars handling characteristics.
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Hi Guys,


Is this the right place to ask this question?


I have been driving a car for 6 years now. Want to make some slight changes. I have added quite a few small changes like tint, splash guard, raceseng shifter knob, center console cover, weathertech floorliner etc. Most are just for look and functionality. The front tower brace would be the 1st mod that is actually kinda performance related.


So my question is that whether you guys can tell any difference after installation on street/highway driving? I am driving daily on 280 of SF bay area. So quite some turns on the highway. My major concern is, of course, whether the added weight of the bar will make it undesirable?


Finally, I plan to pick a good brand bar. So how would you rank the common brands? from ftspeed.com, looks like the carbon fiber Cusco one is the best w.r.t. weight. How does it compare to others? Like aluminum Cusco? is Beatrush a decent brand? Thanks.
I agree with Soundman98. I have read many of the threads over the years and have come to the same conclusion.

What is your goal from installing a strut bar?

Have you upgraded your tires?
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I want to add some new items to make it a bit more exciting. I recently picked up a brand new set of PP performance wheels with new OEM tires. So I will upgrade tires later. I am basically trying to do things slowly and add easy stuff first. Strut tower brace might be the easiest thing to add.





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I agree with Soundman98. I have read many of the threads over the years and have come to the same conclusion.

What is your goal from installing a strut bar?

Have you upgraded your tires?
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Old 12-10-2019, 07:36 PM   #5
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GrimmSpeed bar is inexpensive and from reviews a lot of the guys like it. GrimmSpeed even has an article on the product.

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I have Cusco front and rear strut bars as well as TRD door stiffeners. I felt a noticeable difference for each. Regular street driving, you won't notice. Find a nice empty highway or parking lot and do a slow speed slalom, you will feel it. My brother swears my car rides rougher. Small differences.
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I want to add some new items to make it a bit more exciting. I recently picked up a brand new set of PP performance wheels with new OEM tires. So I will upgrade tires later. I am basically trying to do things slowly and add easy stuff first. Strut tower brace might be the easiest thing to add.
PP wheels are great looking! Nice upgrade!

Idk about a strut bar adding excitement. Especially for DD.

IMO a stiffer suspension is more exciting.


Random musings...

I would skip coils if I had things to do over again.

I would get Pro-kit 1" drop springs, camber bolts, SPC rear LCA, upgrade the shocks to koni or bilsteins, and add a bumpsteer kit. It would be a perfect setup for DD, IMO. And cost a bunch less...
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I am not going to drop the car. Prefer to make DD easier. Also won't buy coilovers. I read from many sources that inadequate setup actually ruins the experience. So high expenditure + risk makes it undesirable to me. But will upgrade to better shock absorbers later on. The biggest game changer should be tires. But I am financially responsible and will wait till I wear the current tires out.
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If you're trying to make the car feel sportier, get front and rear swaybars with aftermarket endlinks. This removes compliance and body roll. It will make the car respond faster and with less body roll, but will remove absolute grip at the limit with no supporting mods.

Sway bars are the best "feeling" mod for a daily besides tires that you just want to spice up and don't care about the overall loss of peak grip.
Strut tower bars are neat but nowhere near help fight body roll like a swaybar upgrade does. Strut tower bars are nice eye candy though!
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I have the grimmspeed strut bar and I feel the difference during hard cornering only. Would I recommend it? Yeah. Would I absolutely recommend it? Mm probably not. I felt much more of an oomph from engine mounts to be honest, but that’s not exactly cornering related. The perrin steering rack lockdown made the steering feel less wobbly and more direct.
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+1 for the sway bar upgrade. You'll notice the difference from stiffer sway bars MUCH more than strut bars.

Typically when people install stiffer suspension, it's to help remove the body roll lot reduce the transition time the suspension takes when moving left to right quickly. Sway bars would accomplish this, but still keep your ride "feeling like stock" during compression and rebound of the damper.

Another nice "upgrade" would be wheel spacers. You can run as much as a 25mm with a 225/45/17 tire without running into issues. It'll not only improved the look of the car, but will increase the track width of the vehicle by close to 2".

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Forget all this stuff until you get an alignment.
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In no particular order, here are a few good cheap handling/chassis upgrades on a stock car for not too much money:

1. Performance alignment
2. Steering rack bushings or steering rack lockdown
3. Performance alignment
4. Whiteline rear subframe and rear diff bushing inserts (mild increase in noise)
5. brake master cylinder brace
6. good street/sport brake pads
7. uhhh a performance alignment is pretty good

All of the above are pretty easy to install, but the alignment takes a professional.

Swaybars are a good relatively inexpensive option too, but it depends on your goals.

The grimspeed strut tower bar is not a bad upgrade (i have one) but it's not as noticeable as other options.

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In no particular order, here are a few good cheap handling/chassis upgrades on a stock car for not too much money:

1. Performance alignment
2. Steering rack bushings or steering rack lockdown
3. Performance alignment
4. Whiteline rear subframe and rear diff bushing inserts (mild increase in noise)
5. brake master cylinder brace
6. good street/sport brake pads
7. uhhh a performance alignment is pretty good

All of the above are pretty easy to install, but the alignment takes a professional.

Swaybars are a good relatively inexpensive option too, but it depends on your goals.

The grimspeed strut tower bar is not a bad upgrade (i have one) but it's not as noticeable as other options.

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