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Legend in the making | 22 | 20.18% | |
Big letdown for everyone | 16 | 14.68% | |
Big letdown for us crazy people | 24 | 22.02% | |
Meh | 23 | 21.10% | |
Gonna get cancelled before release | 24 | 22.02% | |
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10-30-2019, 04:32 PM | #365 |
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That was one reason, mismanagement, bleeding money, relying on government subsidies, poor quality was another couple of reasons.
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10-30-2019, 05:00 PM | #366 |
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so a 86 with a lower profile 16" wheel/ tire (say a 45-50 series), would have a lower COG then a stock US 86 with 17" ?
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10-31-2019, 11:04 AM | #367 |
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Even a 40 series tire wouldn't be enough to offset it half an inch. It's also not as simple as saying, lowering the car 2 inches means the Cg has moved 2 inches lower.
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Welp so much for waiting on news about the twins from TMS. I think I’m just going to give in and buy a used 2017+
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me too.
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surely you cannot drive the car with such a performance detracting design flaw! I think i'll wait for the 2020+ models of first gen 86 to become used, they have the updated head units |
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225/45-16 is 0.6" shorter than stock diameter, would lower the car 0.3". It is *nearly* as simple as saying that lowers the c.g. by 0.3" given that unsprung mass is less than 10% of total weight.
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I've heard numbers as high as 15%, but yes it's nearly semantics at such an amateurish level. Still note worthy that it's not a 1:1 calculation. |
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The FA20 seems rather unloved in this forum, while it is imperfect, it does:
(1) provide a fully balanced configuration, unlike an in-line four. But why is it harsher than the Skyactiv-G? Because of inadequate damping by the OEM crank pulley. The FA20 is much smoother with a fluidampr (or equivalent) installed. (2) operate with a pronounced torque dip. But that's is primarily due to engine tuning. There are other OEM and after-market ignition map and exhaust combinations that minimise the torque dip. (3) weigh more than an in-line four. Not much anyone can do much about this. (4) provide a better front/rear weight distribution, and can be mounted further back. (5) provides mediocre power and fuel consumption compared with the Skyactiv-G. That can be addressed if Toyota implements the Toyota Dynamic Force technology to the FA 20. (6) have numerous significant product failures (actually breaking the record of re-calls for a any Toyota/Subaru) since day one. By 2017, most of the design problems have been identified and repaired. Therefore, I like the FA20 for years after 2016. Just wish Toyota and Subaru did more testing before releasing Toybaru for sale to public. Conclusion - |
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I know of the one engine recall and even then the FA20 was a tiny percentage of the overall numbers involved.
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BUT I think the "fix" for this is to make a shortened-wheelbase 2-seat version with rear wheels moved ~10-12" forward Yeah, not gon happen... |
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