2017 Subaru BRZ Facelift

[goldenfri]

The performance pack also adds 20lbs to the Limited, seems like a lot for a BBK and 0.5" on each wheel.

[krayzie]

Funny IIRC there is a Brembo Brakes ad in Grassroot Motorsports magazine and the rating chart only lists the OEM Brembos barely for light duty track work, more dedicated for street use. Then again they are trying to sell people heavier duty brakes.

It's basically the standard grade Brembos that come with an older Porsche isn't it (4 pot/2 pot fixed caliper)? The WRX STI world seems to think their Brembos need better pads and rotors to stop probably in very wet / cold conditions.

[kuczynskika]

Originally Posted by krayzie

Funny IIRC there is a Brembo Brakes ad in Grassroot Motorsports magazine and the rating chart only lists the OEM Brembos barely for light duty track work, more dedicated for street use. Then again they are trying to sell people heavier duty brakes.

It's basically the standard grade Brembos that come with an older Porsche isn't it (4 pot/2 pot fixed caliper)? The WRX STI world seems to think their Brembos need better pads and rotors to stop probably in very wet / cold conditions.

Since I have WRX STI brembos on my BRZ I have to admit that more aggressive pads and lightweight 2 piece rotors would make more of a difference. The setup also noticeably shifts brake bias forward. Serious track guys seem to run the stock calipers on the rear to keep the bias down.


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[Quentin]

Originally Posted by Freude am Fahren

Hmm, so no change to the gear ratios, just the final. So it's going to be screaming on the highway.

Not really. A 4.3 final drive versus a 4.1 only bumps the RPM by 5%. So if you are at 3000RPM at highway speed, you will be 3150RPM at highway speeds.

[Oxyg3n]

Originally Posted by Quentin

Not really. A 4.3 final drive versus a 4.1 only bumps the RPM by 5%. So if you are at 3000RPM at highway speed, you will be 3150RPM at highway speeds.

Excuse my lack of knowledge but...does the changed final drive mean it just affects the last gear while the rest stays the same? Not really sure how final drive works.

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[mike2100]

Originally Posted by Oxyg3n

Excuse my lack of knowledge but...does the changed final drive mean it just affects the last gear while the rest stays the same? Not really sure how final drive works.

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Final drive is the ratio in the differential. It affects all gears.

[nico_rsx]

Originally Posted by Oxyg3n

Excuse my lack of knowledge but...does the changed final drive mean it just affects the last gear while the rest stays the same? Not really sure how final drive works.

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The final gear ratio affect all 6 speed. It's the gear in the diferential, so it will affect all the gears by the same percentage.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by Poodles

You're either trolling or straight up lying... You also missed the point about the Japanese improving the area under the curve. It's the whole reason sequential turbos were used...

But whatever, you apparently can't keep your facts or points straight so I don't know why I even bother replying.

Why would I need to lie though? What am I gaining from lying? A member in a local group in Atlanta(86 ATL) let me and another 86 member drive his car because we wanted to go pure N/A bolt ons + e85 and make 35-40whp. A guy name Adam got a Tomei EL from my buddy and he got it tuned from a shop in ATL named DBW Motorsport. The car just didn't impress us and I even suggested we turn off the A/C to see if the car would perform better. All I'm saying is if you can feel 10hp to the crank then you have amazing feel for small power. It's funny how you are getting angry over some stuff I'm clearly not lying about.

[Bman117]

Originally Posted by Oxyg3n

Excuse my lack of knowledge but...does the changed final drive mean it just affects the last gear while the rest stays the same? Not really sure how final drive works.

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Final Drive relates to how many times the drive shaft needs to rotate to spin the wheels.

See this video at the 1:45 min mark to get a fairly good understanding of exactly what I mean:

[Freude am Fahren]

Originally Posted by Quentin

Not really. A 4.3 final drive versus a 4.1 only bumps the RPM by 5%. So if you are at 3000RPM at highway speed, you will be 3150RPM at highway speeds.

True, but it's already yelling at 80. Yellingx1.05=screaming

[SStratos]

After watching the infomercial video of all the changes at Subaru.com, I'm soooo SOOOO happy I waited for the 2017 BRZ!!!

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by SStratos

After watching the infomercial video of all the changes at Subaru.com, I'm soooo SOOOO happy I waited for the 2017 BRZ!!!

But just think if you wait until 2020my you can get the second generation!

[SStratos]

Originally Posted by raven1231

But just think if you wait until 2020my you can get the second generation!

Ha ha :-) I can't wait that long...and by then I would have made more upgrades and not need the 2020model. :-)

[churchx]

Originally Posted by kuczynskika

.. Serious track guys seem to run the stock calipers on the rear to keep the bias down.

Serious track guys understand importance of brakes and don't do brake swap from different car for bling/branding purpose only.